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    What a really great thread! That's what I love about this place. Variety.
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    OK, seriously, in a real life survival situation against a tank... RPG or LAW? Or would you go all bushcrafty and make a molotov? Mac
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    Pict! What are we to do with you? Sticky bomb. Now, I know more about sticky bombs than 7/8s of you. So, yeah. Sticky bomb.

    I've always liked the Japanese approach of burying a 500 pound bomb in the road then running out and whacking the detonator with a hammer just as the tank passes by.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pict View Post
    OK, seriously, in a real life survival situation against a tank... RPG or LAW? Or would you go all bushcrafty and make a molotov? Mac
    All good weapons to be sure Mac. I think I woudl prefer the TOW.

    From Wiki - "The BGM-71 TOW is a U.S. anti-tank guided missile. TOW stands for Tube-launched, Optically-tracked, Wire-guided. The TOW was first produced in 1970 and is the most widely used anti-tank guided missile in the world. Current production TOWs can penetrate all currently known tank armor."
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    Crash! Stop with the toe jokes, okay? Dragonjimm broke his. Have some compassion.
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    I guess that 7/8's of the people on the forum would agree with that.
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    Look, I know I'm new here but when it comes to bushcraft solutions for improvised anti-armor weapons, I'm in that 1/8th if you know what I'm sayin'.

    There's two attitudes to anti-armor weapons. Those who wrap towels around their heads and look forward to the day and the rest who had a Panzerfaust shoved in their hands and an MP-40 shoved in their back. I've never been either guy, but here's my opinion...

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    Spartan82, hope that was a joke, because i'm in the 7/8th that thinks your full of crap because you don't know what training any of us have had, that being said who cares what training anyone has with a gun, yeah yeah I know guns don't kill people people kill people... wrong!!!!!!!!!!! The bullet or projectile is what kills you the idiot that pulled the trigger set the actions in motion. And that being said I don't imply that to the military in a conflict, police action, firefight, war, or what ever you wanna call it. Now on to Bdog, bro don't sweat it you can ask any question on here about anything you want (except about me and an arrow in my booty... hint hint to Rick) as that is your right and I think you should ask what ever you want, I was as usual farting around... no I would never just open up on a group of people with AKs I'd beat feet outta there, call 911, think about the situation and regroup then watch the show as the police swoop into action.
    In my line of work (most of you know what I do) I carry a S&W .40 everyday, train regularly with it and other weapons so my views are a little different from others and no I'm not in the military, personally I think there are too many guns floating around the U.S. than need be. Again remember these are just my views as a pro gun guy but more a pro knife guy than anything else.
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    OK all joking aside, stay out of gunfights. If you are doing everything right and applying all your other skills to avoiding it you stand a much better chance of survival. The last thing you want is to feel overconfident because you are armed. Keep in mind that guys with SEAL level training get shot by peasant soldiers and conscripts who just happened to be pointed in the right direction at the critical moment. Training doesn't make you bulletproof.

    Think more in terms of "which binoculars are best to take to a gunfight". I have actually watched a gunfight through binoculars and it was much safer, I can assure you. Mac
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam View Post
    lol.....what flavor, klkak?
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    (Queue theme song from a Fist Full of Dollars)

    I toss my serape over my shoulder leaving my gun hand free as the man at the other end of the street turns to face me. I pull a long slow draw from the cheap, rumpled cigar between my teeth.

    (Cough! Sputter! Hack!) Kings! Do over! Stupid cheap cigars.

    I have to be at my tailors at 1:30. Are we gonna do this gun fight or not?

    I'm dyin' over here (Cough! Hack!) okay? Give me a break.
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    Think more in terms of "which binoculars are best to take to a gunfight". I have actually watched a gunfight through binoculars and it was much safer, I can assure you. Mac
    Binoculars are very handy too. Personally I'm an 8x man. I know, I know; 10x gives you more magnification but it also gives me a headache. I have a pair of Pentex bino's now but am saving my money for a pair of Steiner Predator Pro's.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    but am saving my money for a pair of Steiner Predator Pro's.
    The 10x40 or the 10X26? The 10x26 are light weight and don't fog up! And about $100 cheaper.
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    Talking 10x Too Strong

    I don't get a headache when the guns go bang, I am just too nervous to hold the 10X steady enough to see thru. Also have a tough time finding the gunfight again after pulling my head down. I remember those words I had burned into my little brain when my instructor told us we were going to learn how to save our a$$ from everything but a gun cause any idiot can pull a trigger. I had no trouble with knife defense, I just barfed on him.
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    Question Molotov????

    Quote Originally Posted by Pict View Post
    OK, seriously, in a real life survival situation against a tank... RPG or LAW? Or would you go all bushcrafty and make a molotov? Mac
    Wasn't he a Russian ballet dancer ? If it's a thingy I think it is around here we save our bottles and take them back for a refill of the Nectar of the Gods. It beats nitro, get caught you can drink the evidence and in this state we are too poor to afford gasoline. And you people wonder why we drink.
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    10x now you're talking true life gunfight survival! Coot, we pay $5.50 a gallon down here so don't be talkin' about how expensive its getting to make a molotov, compared to the price of your average black market RPG they're still the best deal running.

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    RPG's, LAW's, Molotov's.........Mac, what is it you say you're teaching?
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    Pict says he is a "Mercenary" oops, I mean "Missionary".

    I guess if you read the Bible carefully enough. Mostly between the lines. Use some extreme imagination. It tells you how to make and use the most effective "Revolutionary" type weapon. (disclaimer; I don't personally believe this)

    Or......,

    He could be a U.S. Government Adviser.

    Or......,

    He is just a regular guy with a desire to teach the locals about his Faith and just happens to be Really really into wilderness survival and the use of RPG's, LAW Rockets and Molotov cocktails.

    Either way, He seems like a really nice guy.
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    Agreed. I was just thinking about signing up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Pict! What are we to do with you? Sticky bomb. Now, I know more about sticky bombs than 7/8s of you. So, yeah. Sticky bomb.

    I've always liked the Japanese approach of burying a 500 pound bomb in the road then running out and whacking the detonator with a hammer just as the tank passes by.
    so thats where the iraqis got that from lol i knew they couldnt possibly be as wiley as i thought they were

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