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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Reeves View Post
    Operation Desert Shield was the defense of Saudi Arabia that never happened. Desert Storm is still being fought only now they call it something else. The official language is English. And the immigrants come here because it is easy to take advantage of Americans.
    as i recall congress still declared war. there is no official language of the united states check your history books. its been long argued over whether or not we should have one cuz were the melting pot of the world.


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    Quote Originally Posted by commoguy View Post
    as i recall congress still declared war.
    That doesn't we've won now does it?
    there is no official language of the united states check your history books. its been long argued over whether or not we should have one cuz were the melting pot of the world.
    Seeing as how you obviously seem to have issues with grammar I can see why you would object to English. American history books are written in English. Why do you think that is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam
    Seeing as how you obviously seem to have issues with grammar I can see why you would object to English. American history books are written in English. Why do you think that is?
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    Quote Originally Posted by commoguy View Post
    as i recall congress still declared war.
    Uhhh, no, Congress did not declare war.
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    The President declares war, the congress then votes on it, after the fact. Our last three wars, congress has been onboard, in the beginning.

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    The Constitution of the United States

    Article. I. - The Legislative Branch

    Section 8 - Powers of Congress

    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;

    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

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    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

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    The last time Congress declared war was WWII.
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    "Operation Desert Shield was the defense of Saudi Arabia"
    Big fat no there, Operation Desert Shield and Storm was to the defense of Kuwait, I fought in that war, went over at the end of 89 (Spet 89 exactly) and came home in June of 91. Saudi was a country we used to launch from. We defended Isreal from scuds.
    Bragg, come on dude, I have so much pride in this country, served 8 years in the Army to pay back what my country did and does for me, live as free if not free'r than you and yeah this is the best place to live IMHO, and patriotism is a good thing and no it does not always lead to war. Just because this country is hitting a little hard times does not mean we are through, and people from all over the globe are dying to live here, its pretty easy to sit back and armchair quarterback but different to run the show, and what makes you think anyone here qualified would want to work for you? You seem to me like follower not a leader, more of the sheeple than some here, but is being a sheeple a bad thing? Sure gas is high here now, so what. I'll pay for it and drive where I wanna cause I can... and tote my big azz gun with me if I wanna cause I can... because I live in America.
    And if we're so bad off then why does everyone else on this rock of a planet come to us for aid and assistance... hmmm, cause we get the job done and knuckle draggers and sheeple like you take advantage of it... and mister multimillion dollar corporation you are one of them people who has all the solutions to everything but just talks the game instead of getting into it, another rich guy eating away at the fabric of the common man.
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    Didn't we fight a tyrant 3000 miles away and then set a new one up here. As Ken spoke of.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    The Constitution of the United States
    Article. I. - The Legislative Branch
    Section 8 - Powers of Congress
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes(don't need these) Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
    To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
    To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

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    To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

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    The last time Congress declared war was WWII.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf65 View Post
    "Operation Desert Shield was the defense of Saudi Arabia"
    Big fat no there, Operation Desert Shield and Storm was to the defense of Kuwait, I fought in that war, went over at the end of 89 (Spet 89 exactly) and came home in June of 91. Saudi was a country we used to launch from. We defended Isreal from scuds.
    No, invading the 19th providence of Iraq was plan C. Operation Desert Shield was to protect the oil fields of Saudi Arabia.

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    I hear moose poo can be used as alternate fuel source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bdog View Post
    I hear moose poo can be used as alternate fuel source.
    And ear-rings, and neck-less, and if your not getting enough fiber in your diet, you could

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    Everyone around the world hates the US, but they will take our money.

    Everyone around the world hates the US, but for some reason they want to move here.

    Everyone around the world hates the US, but when they are invaded, they want our help.


    What the he ll is Canada going to do if they get invaded by another country? Tell ya what they are going to do, Sir, President McCain, please save our as s'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FVR View Post
    Everyone around the world hates the US, but they will take our money.

    Everyone around the world hates the US, but for some reason they want to move here.

    Everyone around the world hates the US, but when they are invaded, they want our help.


    What the he ll is Canada going to do if they get invaded by another country? Tell ya what they are going to do, Sir, President McCain, please save our as s'.
    We are invaded everyday? The door has been left open since the second world war.

    If we were to be militarily invaded.....we could help you out protecting us with our two used, broken down nuclear subs.

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    if you move u better be sure the place is safe. Know how many Americans have gotten murdered in 3rd world countries?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf65 View Post
    "Operation Desert Shield was the defense of Saudi Arabia"
    Big fat no there, Operation Desert Shield and Storm was to the defense of Kuwait, I fought in that war, went over at the end of 89 (Spet 89 exactly) and came home in June of 91. Saudi was a country we used to launch from. We defended Isreal from scuds.
    the world hates us because we keep on getting in their business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omid View Post
    if you move u better be sure the place is safe. Know how many Americans have gotten murdered in 3rd world countries?
    I had a couple American buddies call me last year from NM requesting I send them a couple Canadian motorcycle patches for their jackets as they were riding their bikes to the tip of Argentina and back. When they got back from their ride they called me to tell me what a difference in attitude of the people they encountered. They said they felt safer and people were friendlier.

    I attributed it to them being 6'2" - 6'6" and both over 265lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FVR View Post

    What the he ll is Canada going to do if they get invaded by another country? Tell ya what they are going to do, Sir, President McCain, please save our as s'.
    Now now Frank, I consider us and the US the best of buddies and I have espoused at length my admiration for your nation and your Bill of Rights and I have many friends in your great nation. The truth of the matter is, though, sir, that if Canada were ever invaded by any other country, (say Traxistan or Spudnation) the US would say "Mr President, have your armed forces haul a$$ up there and protect our investments" since about 80% of our resource exploitation is American owned.
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    See? Now that right there is the attitude I'm talkin' about. Those North Korean little pukes could use a good dose of that. And those Iranian (We're going to be the Persian Empire again. Blah, blah, blah) goof balls. Nothing wrong with friendship. A couple of brewskies, an elk burger or two. Next thing you know we're sending a couple of billion their way in foreign aid and we're sucking the ground out from under them. Good trade off in my book.
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    Sam I don't know your age or where you got your information from, of course Desert Shield/Storm was all about oil, and not to protect the oil fields of Saudi Arabia that just came into play since we were using them as a staging point, but it was also about stopping the invasion of Kuwait, it is not a part of Iraq although it was in the past... but that was the past hence the word past. My info on Iraq comes from being there and the U.S. Army 101st Airborne's LRSD S-2 section, and SOCOM from the orders we were given from both, and what Gen. Powell stood in front of us (the U.S. troops) and said and believe this or not, I trust that man and would have followed him into hell and think he would have made an outstanding President, certainly better than the one we now have or the two goofballs we got running this year.
    Omid we are in everyone's business because everyone wants our help, part of the problem with being one, and I say one... of the big boys on the rock. Personally in my opinion the big boys on the block are the U.S. Great Britain, Canada, China (because of the 1,330,044,605 people as of July 2007), Australia, France, and several other nations. None of these include the middle east because the offer nothing but oil, which we have and are too stupid to use. Now I see the U.S. and Canada as more of brothers kinda thing with Australia not far behind and Britain as the mother of these countries. I have been to these countries and trained with their military so all of my knowledge comes from that point of view, I never visited any of these except for military training and working with them in the 1st Gulf War.
    Take it for what its worth as its just my opinion.
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    P.S. I f you have a problem with our country do something to help fix it, or pack your kit and don't let the door hit where the good Lord split ya, it is still the greatest Country on earth and best place to live, well next to Ireland
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