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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Reeves View Post
    ex-cons?
    Nope. All folks who were found not guilty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Reeves View Post
    ex-cons?
    You're originally from Maine,aren't you???? j/k
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Only if I can ship you something in return.
    I hear you have a good source for Lobster!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Montana View Post
    I hear you have a good source for Lobster!!!
    Sure do. But I can't seem to find a good elk steak anywhere around here.
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    Well, lets line out a trade
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    Quote Originally Posted by nell67 View Post
    You're originally from Maine,aren't you???? j/k
    Probably. LOL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Montana View Post
    Well, lets line out a trade
    Just call me. You've got the number.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Just call me. You've got the number.

    1-900-LAWSUIT?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Reeves View Post
    1-900-LAWSUIT?
    Naw, Sam. No 900 numbers. Or any other toll free exchange, either. Now, sit down before you read the next two paragraphs.


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    There are still some of us who don't chase ambulances, sell themselves like hookers, or advertise.

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    Cool Yo Jason...

    Both Common Guy & Ken are right. I only take medical advice from a licensed Dr.. Likewise I would only take legal advice from a lawyer. Even a lawyer will tell you that they don't always know how a judge will rule. Let's look at what you've accomplished: You've nursed some very sick animals back to health as well as trained them. Even if you have to give them back then you've done way more than there previous owner has. Ken is a lawyer, & as a lawyer will tell you that EVERYONE in this country is innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law...and the previous owner's father seems to have a very good rep & no previous charges. Sorry to say but a "gut-feeling" is not admissable as evidence in a court of law. I also agree with most here that, since the father of the "accused perp" is in the "Dog-Raising business" that a potential attempt at a buisness negotiation should go farther than a "contempt-of-court citation". Also, if you go against the court you might be removing yourself from a list of qualified foster-care candidates who, in my opinion, need to be there for the next "abuse" case. Just a couple of pennies for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    There are still some of us who don't chase ambulances, sell themselves like hookers, or advertise.

    Almost 25 years in practice. Advertising dollars spent: ZERO. Client source: almost all are referrals from past clients and other lawyers. Many clients ARE other lawyers.
    Oh. So you do the work that is too dirty for most other lawyers to do?

    Okay, I'll slack off of the unsolicited lawya' jokes for awhile.

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    Yep. I'm the one who represents the guys from North Georgia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Yep. I'm the one who represents the guys from North Georgia.
    The guys who slap their ex-wifes divorce attornies?

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    Jason - With all due respect, I don't think you are cut out for caring for animals under these circumstances. You obviously get attached to them and you can't do that. I think Frank has offered the very best advice,

    Quote Originally Posted by FVR
    ...you sign up to foster, not adopt
    You have to ask yourself if you are willing to risk the wrath of the judicial system over a couple of animals. I know that sounds cruel but that's really what it boils down to. Let the dogs go. You've done a very good deed but it's time to say goodbye and good luck. Based only on this post, I wouldn't volunteer for that assignment again. By the way, I'm not being critical. There are a lot of folks that would become attached to the dogs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason_Montana View Post
    The legal advice I need is what will happen if I don't return them? What can I do keep them out of the hands of this young man who neglected them. ?
    If it is a court order - you will be in contempt of court if you don't turn them over.


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    Try to buy them, but first were you given any money for the care of the dogs? If not send the guy a bill for all the expenses such as food, cleaning and shelter costs, shots given, and so on, maybe that will work. I dunno, but just keeping them or giving them other dogs will end you up in a whole lot of hurt with the law.
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    Jason,

    It sounds like you got a $hitty deal, partner, but don't walk into a world of hurt with the legal system. Ken's a lawyer, he's the only one here that I know of, take his advice. My only advice regarding the legal system is avoid it if at all possible.

    Ken--funny thing about all the people taking shots at you and your profession. Everyone seems to have all these nasties to say about lawyers until they need one. I'm pretty sure your profession is the same as any other, there's good and there's bad and there's mediocre.
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    My wife is a prosecutor, lawyers are a needed form of employment.
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    Thumbs up Here's the skinny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf65 View Post
    My wife is a prosecutor, lawyers are a needed form of employment.
    That must be kind of handy, you being a cop and all. You could be saving folks a pile of red tape, no? Just pass her the files over the dinner table "Lock these ones up for a looong time, honey" "OK dear, pass the salt please"
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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