America's time is past.... look elsewhere

[Pict]

Does the American dollar go far? Um, not like it used to. Here in Brazil the value of the US dollar has fallen by 53% since 2003. We pay $5.50 a gallon for gas right now. Mac

[Teotwawki]

I've been to 5 of the 7 continents (all over Europe, Asia, a little S. America, New Zealand) and I can tell ya first hand there is no place like home. There is no place like home.

USA may not be perfect but it is still the best thing going. In spite of my pessimism things will get fixed.

To me it is ALL about individual freedom: to speak, the pray, to win, to lose, to succeed and to fail, to own a gun according to the original purpose of our founders.

I'm a Natural Rights kinda guy for those who know what that means.

[Rick]

WW - I agree with part of what you are saying and take exception to part of it. I absolutely agree that I am no better or worse than anyone else because I'm an American. I don't look down on anyone because of where they came from. My own family migrated here from Sweden hundreds of years ago and probably came from the Germanic tribes before that so, as you said, I'm an American by birth. A lucky accident that my mother happened to live here.

But I think you can separate between being patriotic and being bigoted. Frankly, this country has contributed an awful lot to the world and has accomplished much in the name of mankind. Hardly perfect but still pretty good in my eyes. My father and all of my uncles served in WWII. One in the south Pacific, the rest in Europe. One was wounded three times, one was captured on Christmas Day outside of Bastogne. My father served in the battle of Hurtgen Forest. Those are legacies I'm pretty damned proud of. A lot of people survived that horrible time because of the sacrifice Americans and others made. So, yea, I'm patriotic. I'm pretty proud of the Red, White and Blue. Got tears in my eyes when I stood in front of the Viet Nam Wall and read the names of some good friends. Stood in awe of the ghost like statues the walk the grounds of the Korean War Memorial.

I look at the tons of relief supplies that go out to so many countries around the globe and I guess I just realize how lucky I am that I was born here. Yeah, I'm patriotic.

[Ken]

Less than a week ago, I had the honor and privilege to be in the company of about 30 men and women, all active duty or recently retired military, from the rank of Brigadier General to Sergeant Major.

I had some unforgettable converstions with many of them. I learned of how many of their fellow soldiers fought bravely and died honorably in the service of this nation. After listening to the sacrifices that they, and the brave men and women under their command, had made on behalf of this nation, MY NATION, and the innocent civilians of many other nations, I felt truly humbled.

Men and Women. Black, White, Hispanic-American, and Asian-American. Catholics, Baptists, Jews, Methodists, and others I'm sure. All like family to each other, and all united in their patriotism to the United States and in their sense of duty to be in harms way whenever called upon to protect and defend the people of ANY nation.

And there are hundreds of thousands more like them. Guys like Crash who served this nation for months at a time under the surface of the ocean. Guys like AKS, Beowulf, Klkak, and so many other forum members who risked their lives, in places they can't even talk about, defending not only this nation but the PRINCIPLES it stands for. Each and every one of them have my most sincere thanks, genuine respect, and appreciation for the life I have been able to lead BECAUSE of them.

If we as a nation are guilty of anything, it is that we ask little or nothing in return for the incalculable aid and protection we have given to others.

I am proud to be a citizen of the United States of America. Period.

And make no mistake about it. Our biggest challenge as a nation in both the immediate and long-term future will not be economic disaster. It will be the exercise of self control in our response to those nations who intentionally cause us harm, whether through terrorist or violent acts, economic warfare, or otherwise.

God Bless America.

[Sam Reeves]

Does the American dollar go far? Um, not like it used to. Here in Brazil the value of the US dollar has fallen by 53% since 2003. We pay $5.50 a gallon for gas right now. Mac

Ouch! I just paid over $4 for gas.

[BraggSurvivor]

I mean no harm and I am not trying to bash the good old US of A, I write this crap to open the eyes of the Sheeple. (or at least ponder on) Unless there is change, I mean real change... what has been written can come to pass or all ready has...........

Do I believe everything I post?

[crashdive123]

I mean no harm and I am not trying to bash the good old US of A, I write this crap to open the eyes of the Sheeple. (or at least ponder on) Unless there is change, I mean real change... what has been written can come to pass or all ready has...........

Do I believe everything I post?

I believe you when you say you want to help. But sheeple???? Brother, I think you've got the wrong forum if that's your target audience.

[Ole WV Coot]

I don't think that nationalism and patriotism are good things...they generally cause war. People get born in every country all over the planet, whereever their mothers happened to live at the time of their birth, I fail to see it as something to be proud of - to be of a certain nationality rather than another. Unless you actually immigrated to that country, your citizenship is nothing you lifted so much as a finger for. It's what each and everyone of us does with their personal lives and what sort of people we are that is something to be proud or ashamed of....IMO

I don't understand your thinking. I am Swedish, Scotch-Irish and 100% genuine American Redneck. My family has defended this country from the Revolutionary War until now. Every generation has given a hell of a lot for it and we are proud we did. The Scotch-Irish side did what needed to be done back to the 1700s and my Swedish side almost caught up with them although they didn't get here until the late 1800s. Most of our folks came here for something better and we found it and ain't gonna give it up without a fight. This peace & cloud nine stuff sounds good, but it ain't gonna happen. I will skip politics but I don't lean to the left on anything, and if I could make this a better place for my grandkids I would do it again and I haven't lost any sleep and don't plan on it.

[Chicago Dan]

I mean no harm and I am not trying to bash the good old US of A, I write this crap to open the eyes of the Sheeple. (or at least ponder on) Unless there is change, I mean real change... what has been written can come to pass or all ready has...........

Do I believe everything I post?

Ah come on now!
Don't back out on us now. We need your help.
...and I want that HDTV...LOL

[BraggSurvivor]

Maybe you all are right, I concede......... feel free to email me when your 26 weeks of unemployment benefits run out......

[crashdive123]

Now see. There you go. I'm not sure what your assumptions are to the group that you're talking to, but why the sarcastic insults? Do you know what the balance sheets of the people on the forum. Some come here that are self sufficient. Some come to learn to become more self sufficient.

[Ken]

Crash, we could probably up that to 30 weeks of unemployment benefits if we just cut back some on our NORAD protection coverage area.

[BraggSurvivor]

Now see. There you go. I'm not sure what your assumptions are to the group that you're talking to, but why the sarcastic insults? Do you know what the balance sheets of the people on the forum. Some come here that are self sufficient. Some come to learn to become more self sufficient.

Sarcastic insults? Where did that come from. I was saying I concede. You all are obviously so smart you dont want to here about world economics from a high school drop out.

I was also mentioning to email me as I might have a job for anyone that could be qualified enough to work for my corporation. (incase they lose their job,home,wife ect.)

[wildWoman]

Yeah well, Rick and Coot, I guess we can't all agree on everything...Some nations tend to have more nationalistic and patriotic populations and your country is one of 'em. Quebec would be another Me, I'll stick with the moose...

[Alpine_Sapper]

Sarcastic insults? Where did that come from. I was saying I concede. You all are obviously so smart you dont want to here about world economics from a high school drop out.

I was also mentioning to email me as I might have a job for anyone that could be qualified enough to work for my corporation. (incase they lose their job,home,wife ect.)

Seemed more like you were telling us we were all gonna be unemployed due to the instability of the US economy but that you'll still be sitting pretty. Just how it came across to me. What kinda jobs are you offering? What does your corporation do, exactly?

[wareagle69]

yup k bec sure is a wild nation
almost struck a mooz yesterday morning little bugger jumped out on me but new brakes sprared me wrecking the cav, i need that fuel efficent car to get into town my gas bills are like 600 a month right now, seen lots of mooz and bar so far this year

[crashdive123]

Bragg - I'm honestly not trying to get into a pi**ing contest. My comment about sarcasm was directed to this

"feel free to email me when your 26 weeks of unemployment benefits run out."

Was it really your intent to make job offers?? I only ask because your other comment about me being so smart and not wanting to discuss world economics with a high school drop out also hints of sarcasm IMO.

We've chatted many times. I am no financial wiz - TDW is, and my accountant and financial planner are. Have I ever questioned the sincerity of your posts? Have I ever questioned your education level? I admire anybody that has a dream, follows it and is successful. For you that was providing for your family, becoming self sufficient and creating a successful company along the way.

As you may have noticed in the past, I usually refrain from posting on the threads that are predicting ......(fill in the blank) other than to say that with the information that we're all doomed - I'd like to see some solutions to the possible impending doom. That's all.

[wildWoman]

Hey WE/moose man, do you know how common or rare moose triplets are? We saw a set with their momma here a few years ago.

[BraggSurvivor]

My opoligies crash, maybe not totally honest as there may have been a bit of sarcasm involved. I need to take a break for a while, I've been working too hard lately and rubbing off in my posts.

Again, I opoliguise.

[wareagle69]

Hey WE/moose man, do you know how common or rare moose triplets are? We saw a set with their momma here a few years ago.

according to the ecology and management of the north american moose considered the bilbe of moose ecology the occurance of triplets is rare...personally only seen twins