For our non military members

**Nwwoodsman** · 05-31-2008, 12:19 AM

#1 never a gun, I'd probably shoot my self

some bear spray could come in hand tho

#2 If I respect them, I will follow them even if I don't like them, but if I don't have confidence in them or they are just being an azzhole... they can go to he**

#3 Almost anything if it did not involve killing many people or cousing a lot of pain or destruction. somtimes you gotta look at the big picture ya know?

#4 If they were gonna die for sure, than yes. if there was even a little chance than I would have to make a split second decision. If me staying coused other members of my group to die or get hurt bad, then I would leave.

**Flavor Bear** · 05-31-2008, 12:37 AM

1.) Yes, but something discreet and easy to carry. Mine has an AR-7 in it.

2.) Yes, but if that's not to say I wouldn't question them at every turn. I am confident enough in my own survival skills that I would need to make damn sure somebody giving me orders knew what they were talking about.

3.) I would do anything possible.

4.) It would really depend on who they were and what the situation was. If they possessed skills valuable enough to go the trouble of treating them and hauling them around, then I would see to it that they made it.

**Buddha443556** · 05-31-2008, 02:42 AM

1) Do you feel your bug out/in kit should contain anti personnel equipment (rifles, handguns, pepper spray, tank, bazooka

)

Yes.

2) If in a group would you be able to follow orders from someone with more experience even if you personally don't like them.

I can follow orders from someone more experienced (or even less) however if I don't like them there's probably a real good reason. You have to be a real piece of **** for me to actually bother to dislike you. One of us has to go. Kind of wondering how I got stuck with this group already.

3) To what lengths would you go to keep you and/or your family safe and healthy?

Any.

4) Last question, if you had an injured companion would you leave them to die if were the only way you could survive?

Companion is rather vague but if they're not family (a group not necessarily related by blood in my mind) then probably wouldn't leave them behind alive either. I'll be sure to toast them next St. Patrick Day for saving my ***. Family however isn't left behind unless that's the way they want it (it's taken a month sitting in ICU to add that conditional clause).

**RBB** · 05-31-2008, 04:37 AM

Originally Posted by DEET

First of all if you don't know me I'm a veteran with a survival school that being said I want to ask our non vet members a few questions that came to my mind during a role playing excersise we did here to help me with my students. Please be honest with your answers I'm trying to better understand my students without singling them out in class.

1) Do you feel your bug out/in kit should contain anti personnell equipment (rifles, handguns, pepper spray, tank, bazooka

)

2) If in a group would you be able to follow orders from someone with more experience even if you personally don't like them.

3) To what lengths would you go to keep you and/or your family safe and healthy?

4) Last question, if you had an injured companion would you leave them to die if were the only way you could survive?

Thanks in advance for your responses they are greatly appreciated and remeber please be totally honest, also no argueing over someones response it's important I get honest feelings.

1: Due to my line of work there would likely be at least a pistol and shotgun.

2: Yes.

3: I believe a person has a right to defend themselves. I don't believe a person has a right to murder others. There is a line there.

4: No.

**Rick** · 05-31-2008, 12:50 PM

1. Yes.
2. Yes. If he knew what he was doing. My feelings are secondary to the survival of the group.
3. What ever it takes to defend.
4. Nope. Leaving someone behind speaks to your moral compass, I think. I'd suck it up and hang tough with them. Who knows, maybe with help they can recover.

**warman87** · 05-31-2008, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by DEET

First of all if you don't know me I'm a veteran with a survival school that being said I want to ask our non vet members a few questions that came to my mind during a role playing excersise we did here to help me with my students. Please be honest with your answers I'm trying to better understand my students without singling them out in class.

1) Do you feel your bug out/in kit should contain anti personnell equipment (rifles, handguns, pepper spray, tank, bazooka

)

2) If in a group would you be able to follow orders from someone with more experience even if you personally don't like them.

3) To what lengths would you go to keep you and/or your family safe and healthy?

4) Last question, if you had an injured companion would you leave them to die if were the only way you could survive?

Thanks in advance for your responses they are greatly appreciated and remeber please be totally honest, also no argueing over someones response it's important I get honest feelings.

1) yes but depending on what i expect i would take the proper protection
2)yes but i wouldnt like it
3)any length
4)yes unless it was my family

**Arkansas_Ranger** · 05-31-2008, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by DEET

First of all if you don't know me I'm a veteran with a survival school that being said I want to ask our non vet members a few questions that came to my mind during a role playing excersise we did here to help me with my students. Please be honest with your answers I'm trying to better understand my students without singling them out in class.

1) Do you feel your bug out/in kit should contain anti personnell equipment (rifles, handguns, pepper spray, tank, bazooka

)

2) If in a group would you be able to follow orders from someone with more experience even if you personally don't like them.

3) To what lengths would you go to keep you and/or your family safe and healthy?

4) Last question, if you had an injured companion would you leave them to die if were the only way you could survive?

Thanks in advance for your responses they are greatly appreciated and remeber please be totally honest, also no argueing over someones response it's important I get honest feelings.

1. Yes. I believe in personal defense although I don't take it to the extreme. I almost always am armed, but then it's part of my job to be.

2. Yes, I do it all the time, sadly.

3. Lethal force if necessary.

4. This is too open ended. I don't think anyone necessarily knows until they're faced with it. Been there yourself?

**Rick** · 05-31-2008, 03:12 PM

WE - Can I assume if I were injured that you'd leave me? (sniff) I'd be toast? (sniff). Dang, bro., and I had the map to the highway. Oh well. (snort)

**commoguy** · 05-31-2008, 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by DEET

1) Do you feel your bug out/in kit should contain anti personnell equipment (rifles, handguns, pepper spray, tank, bazooka

)

2) If in a group would you be able to follow orders from someone with more experience even if you personally don't like them.

3) To what lengths would you go to keep you and/or your family safe and healthy?

4) Last question, if you had an injured companion would you leave them to die if were the only way you could survive?

1. yes although i would use it as last resort not b/c of killing someone but b/c in a survival situation the last thing you need is a gsw.

2. yea lol as long as they are competent and open to ideas not just their own.

3. ill put it like this im a great person but if you ever want to see the dark side of me mess with my family. i guarantee that individual will have a very bad day.

4. like others have said its a very open ended question but no i wouldnt. slap a tourniquet on if possible make them as comfortable as possible and do everything in my power to get us out alive.

**Tactical Tom** · 06-02-2008, 12:12 AM

1- Yes I always pack heat

2- Yes, I can get along with almost anyone

3- I would DIE for my Family !
4- If it's close family (father,Mother,Brother wife,kids etc...) Then Yes I would be by their side! If it's a co-worker, neighbor etc... then I must go on !

**Tahyo** · 06-02-2008, 07:31 AM

Originally Posted by DEET

1) Do you feel your bug out/in kit should contain anti personnell equipment (rifles, handguns, pepper spray, tank, bazooka

)

2) If in a group would you be able to follow orders from someone with more experience even if you personally don't like them.

3) To what lengths would you go to keep you and/or your family safe and healthy?

4) Last question, if you had an injured companion would you leave them to die if were the only way you could survive?

1.) Yes and does.

2.) In general, yes.

3.) There are no limits.

4.) Like someone else said, this one is too open ended. The short answer is if a family member, nope.

**BIG TONE** · 06-02-2008, 10:45 AM

1.dont Have 1 Yet
2.90% Chance
3.any Length
4.i Would Carry Them Out But Not Leave Them

**Riverrat** · 06-02-2008, 12:10 PM

1. Yes
2. Most times, if they made sense to me.
3. Whatever is necessary
4. Would depend on who the companion is.

**Ken** · 06-02-2008, 12:37 PM

1. Yes. No question about it.

2. A qualified yes. What kind of experience? What was the outcome? What's his true agenda? What kind of a leader is he? Are members of the group expendable? Does he pass the common sense test? Is that a cliff he's about to walk over? What are my other options?

3. There is NOTHING I wouldn't do if necessary to keep my family and close friends safe.

4. It depends on many many factors. Is it family or a close friend? Or is it some sh*tbum who has no redeeming social value? Would it only place MY life at risk and not others? How bad is the injury? Example: Only two of us on a plane - fuel is almost gone - impossible to land - he had a heart attack and is unconscious but still barely breathing - there is only one parachute and I still have enough time to get out .....