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    (snap)(snap) Step it up there KLKAK. We don't wait around for old men. Mush on!
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    (Saluting smartly) Yes Sir! Yes Sir! Right a way Sir!....................coughwhatevercough
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    I can hardly wait for next weeks show.
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    Trying to bring things back on topic: I think it's cool that they send guides to help them hunt the big game, but leave them only a .22 when the guide leaves. My question is this: is that realistic? Would you go into the bush with just a .22, with only 1 4-day hunt allowed to get all your meat for the winter? IMO, I think that you hunt until you get your animal. Just doesn't seem like it should be part of the "experiment".

    Oh, and did you notice, the husband and wife team finally were bringing buckets of snow to melt instead of hiking all over creation. And, no word on the "woof" and if it's still hanging around their camp. (I love how he calls it a "woof" instead of a wolf )
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    During the winter I can be found carrying a .22 most of the time. I carry a heavier caliber when hunting moose, caribou and bear. I use a .22 hornet to hunt black tail in PWS. When I am guiding I carry a 12 guage 870 slug gun and a .44 mag hand gun. I carry these mostly to give the clients peace of mind and something to talk about. So I guess the answer to your question is "yes" it is realistic. Oh and by the way. Don't let me be hungry with a .22 in my hands when I see a moose. I'll be having tenderloins for dinner. (In a survival situation of course)

    The comment you made about having guides to help them hunt big game. It is the law here in Alaska. Outsiders (non-residents) must have a guide to hunt.
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    Don't want any of us lower 48'ers bringing in a cow or someone's dog.
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    Right, but my question still remains: If your 4 day hunt failed, would you put up your heavier caliber rifle and forget about big game hunting? I guess if they cannot have a guide, they have to take the rifle away? Maybe one of the survival experts taht are off camera ought to be a guide too... Just my opinion.
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    I was wondering the same thing. They all seemed pretty inexperienced with firearms - don't know if that factored into the equation.
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    Still, a .22 can make you just as dead.

    KLK, can you elaborate a bit more on taking a moose with a .22? That seems waaaaay under powered to me.

    Aren't you AK folks allowed to take two bear per year without permit? And Hopeak didn't you say you could take a moose on an elk permit if you don't find an elk?

    I guess those are mute points for the show but wouldn't they have to have permits to hunt even with a guide even on the show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Still, a .22 can make you just as dead.

    KLK, can you elaborate a bit more on taking a moose with a .22? That seems waaaaay under powered to me.

    Aren't you AK folks allowed to take two bear per year without permit? And Hopeak didn't you say you could take a moose on an elk permit if you don't find an elk?

    I guess those are mute points for the show but wouldn't they have to have permits to hunt even with a guide even on the show?
    A shot with a .22 lr right behind the ear from 50 yards or less will penetrate the brain.

    Depending on what unit you hunt in you can take only one bear or up to 5 bears.

    Yes they would have to have permits to hunt even on the show.

    I might add that here just like outside, most folks only have a small window of opportunity to hunt. Just like catching salmon. They are only in the creeks for a short period of time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KLKAK
    Depending on what unit you hunt in
    Sorry, I don't know what you mean by unit.
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    The state is devided up into 20 some odd hunting units. The seasons and bag limits are different in alot of them.
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    Oh, cool. I appreciate the explanations. I'll bet if you misplace the shot on that moose you would have one P.O.'d moose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Oh, cool. I appreciate the explanations. I'll bet if you misplace the shot on that moose you would have one P.O.'d moose.
    I am sure you would. When I was a kid my mother, sisters and I were very poor. Out of necessity I had to perfect the brain shot with a single shot .22 lr. Now days when I'm hunting Black tail dear in PWS I use a .22 hornet and always take head shots.
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    New episode on tonight if you're so inclined to watch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    New episode on tonight if you're so inclined to watch.

    should be good. from the previews, the group of 3 try to visit another cabin 40 miles away. hmm... let's see what happens.
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    The group of 3 - idiots.
    Father and daughters - don't know how he puts up with the whinning.
    Tent couple - like 'em - go find food.
    Married couple - like 'em - get out and enjoy the view.
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    Do you think they were "encouraged" by producers to make the 40 mile hike? I guess if they got big heads from all their success and hard work, they might think they could do it. HOWEVER, they'd better give them more than just a map and a couple of dinghys (although the 3 of them were dinghys themselves).

    I think 10 miles a day in unfamiliar terrain is a bit ambitious. I would have figured on 6-7 days. It'll be interesting to see how the couple interacts with the 3 next week.

    Also, did you notice the look on the the tent couple dude when the dad showed them the indoor toilet with the jar of pee on the ground. Wonder what he was thinking? At least the father/daughters were generous with their salmon (it appears) and helped out the tent couple.
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    I can't believe the "3 dinghy's" are trying to make this journey. Remember when the show started? They got lost trying to travel 3 miles to their cabin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by klkak View Post
    I can't believe the "3 dinghy's" are trying to make this journey. Remember when the show started? They got lost trying to travel 3 miles to their cabin.
    LOL klk. I think that "production" may have had something to do with them making the trip. Maybe they were that stupid, or felt that with their off-camera survival expert, they really weren't in too much danger.
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