We are social creations and for the most part do I believe desire acceptance, community and kindred bonds. Another lesson being that the idea of the lone survivor/woodsman is a fantasy oft glimpsed through rose colored glass from the plush comforts of our homes. We need others if we are to be truly independent.
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Alan was definitely strong in the last episode. Lucas looked like he was on to something. I think those two are the last two. But, you never know.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/FinallyMe78?feature=mhee
Mitch, who receives a lot of praise for his Youtube vids (haven't watched them) seems to have put all his eggs (or fish) in one basket. In an area that has a high bear density, a missing net that may have had fish in it seems to be probable.
I know Mitch still has his bow and 6 arrows. 4 or 5 of them with mangus buzzcut braodheads. I am hoping he goes on the offensive and hunts a bear or deer.
Its the bits between birth and death that define a life well lived.
Not so much; look up "Winter Harbour, BC, Canada" on Google Earth and zoom out a bit. It's a perfect match for their elimination maps. Bet they can smell breakfast at the restaurant when the wind is right.Originally Posted by TXyakr
OTOH, there have to be some rules to keep them apart; water won't do it since Lucas already has a nice boat, and there are logging roads through the "impassable mountains."
The big takeaway for me is that day 8 saw 4 left, and day 31, the same four were still there. That says if you can go a week, you can keep going a lot longer. This is why my 72 hour kit includes a lot of things to get me to the point of sustainability with relative comfort. 90% of the durable goods I want for three days will have important uses in establishing a long term base camp and strategies for hunting, fishing, water acquisition, etc. Essential consumables I keep separately, so I can determine at bug-out time (or when I'm leaving the car for a hike or other situation where I am more concerned about my ability to get back to it than a simple pocket kit makes me comfortable with) which will be added to the kit. (More bottled water in summer, even more if it's a drought, extra fire starter blocks and/or bottles of HEET for wet weather, more food if resources are poor, and so on.) Obviously, for bug-in, I've got everything there all along.
Sure, if I knew I was going to go hermit on foot, I'd have a full frame pack with crap lashed all over it, and probably a sled with bigger items, but my little day pack with a hatchet and e-tool hanging off the side bindings gives me a lot more to work with than I can fit in cargo pockets.
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I still want to know where Lucas got that skillet. I don't see it anywhere on his list.
He found it at an abandoned camp site
I've seen some of this show
I try and take everything i see on TV with a grain of salt..
Seems like there is a little to learn from some of those guys. I enjoyed the different methods of fishing, using what washes up on the beach..that kind of stuff. A bit inspiring I'd say, over all..
...but i wouldn't want to get stuck out there aloneno way
DL.....Guess you can cross that area off your travelers list.
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I think i crossed it out twice but once more wouldn't hurt just to be sure I remember.. I'm too pretty for 40 below anyways
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Must have missed that part. I was starting to wonder if his practice for building the boat was throwing together a blast furnace and chemistry lab to refine iron and make Teflon.
Even the coast of SE Alaska does not get down to -40F according to recent human history. Perhaps you are thinking of the last ice age a few thousand years ago. The record low for Victoria on the south side of Vancouver Island was +3.7F in 1968. But if you look at the typical lows for January for North Vancouver Island and the Islands on coast of SE Alaska +20F is about as low as it typically gets at sea level. Here is an online tool for that:
https://weatherspark.com/averages/27...olumbia-Canada
I have two cousins who live on Vancouver Island, it is one of the most temperate climates in all of Canada that is why they choose to live there.
The yurt style hut that Lucus built was impressive. I think the show's producers messed with the sequence of his construction process. He probably prepared the site before he disassembled his previous open structure. Difficult to build much when you are spending most of your time living hand to mouth foraging for food during a difficult time of the year. Not sure if he is eating inside there, appears so. When he is gone foraging a bear or puma could tear the place up due to smells.
I have never eaten a "water turkey" aka cormorant, I just throw rocks and sticks at them when fishing, they dive down and spook the trout and white bass and really mess up the fishing. I have been tempted to get out a .410 or .22 and shoot the dang birds. They are everywhere it seems, but evidently not on this guy's farm in Iowa? I will dig up some photos I took of them with small fish in beaks on Reservior in Central Park, Manhattan. I have even seen them working in large groups, 20-100 birds, to school up fish then dive down and feast on them. Taste like steak when you are almost starving? I never thought of trying to catch in a gill net or with minnow on a hook. Not a game bird, considered over populated trash bird by some, but are they protected? OK to kill if you have a hunting license on private property or WMA, National Forest?
If you were ever starving in Manhattan, NYC and had a gill net you might go to the Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis Reservoir and try to catch a Cormorant there...
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I thought I had some good photos of several of these birds with small fish in their mouths but the new memory card was acting up and they failed to record properly. Disappointed.
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Not related photo but I liked this one of a hawk at Central Park we watched chase a gray squirrel with children about 50 yards behind playing. It probably would have made a kill if the humans had given it some distance.
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A "survival" show in a large city park would be fun, and very silly.
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I mentioned in a previous comment that they appeared to be in the area between Winter Harbour and Coal Harbour and a clip online shows them taking off from and talking about Coal Harbour, they are obviously up in some of those sounds near there, not sure exactly where. But I have been to Vancouver Island several times and am vaguely familiar with the area. The show indicates that they were spaced about 4-10 miles apart, this may be correct but seemed a bit off to me at first. At some times of the year there is a lot of boat and small ship traffic on these waters. Once the rains start to intensify in Fall/Winter getting in and out of these logging roads is difficult but not due to snow fall as much as rain and mud most of this season. There are some mountains on island but I'm not sure they are very tall right there. One of my cousins just leaves Vancouver Island in the Fall/Winter and goes to his second home in Arizona, nice life. He sold his business for a good profit and can do as he pleases.
http://islandnature.ca/2010/02/rainf...the-wet-coast/
Compares Holberg, north of Winter Harbour, North Vancouver Island to wet parts of Costa Rica. Dirt logging roads may be "impassable" in November and December due to spike in rainfall on west coast of island. This is one reason why many sports fishermen are directed to Campbell river instead.
Smelling breakfast cooking reminds me of one time some friends and I were primitive camping on a island down river from a fancy resort hotel near Bastrop, Texas. I did not feel like filtering water from the silty river which was nasty some dead animals in it (I was in a very small kayak not at canoe). So I paddled up to the resort filled up about a gallon or so of canteens and went back. Friends gave me a hard time. I told them the staff there was very nice because I acted like I was a paid guest. I helped my self to the breakfast buffet, had the chief made me a great omelette, some fresh Belgium waffles with fresh strawberries, bacon and sausage, Starbucks coffee. Then I took a warm shower. They laughed and remembered that one for a while.
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Yes they are still protected but with their exploding number across the US from both what I have read and from what I have witnessed personally in North La, I don't believe them to be needing that status. I have stood and watched literal 1000's fly over for several minutes till the last one went past me.
Lucas appear to be doing well if he can keep it together mentally or not roll his boat over.
Its the bits between birth and death that define a life well lived.
That is interesting EA. I just learned on the internet that the various Cormorant species and Anhinga (commonly called snake bird and water turkey) are not closely related. I have never shot or trapped either. Both are just a minor nuisance and fun to watch if I am not trying to catch fish. So cormorant will NOT be on next Thanksgiving table but how about the invasive Anhinga? LOL
Can you put a ring around their necks and train them to catch fish for you? Or are they being protected as well?
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Anhinga/id
http://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/D...d_Cormorant/id
BTW if you ever jog around White Rock Lake Dallas there is a section NW that is covered in Cormorant droppings that smells like rotting fish, DON'T look up, slip and slide your way thru there as fast as you can. The entire loop around the lake is about 9 miles. So no harm if you just skip that section or go a little further and take the road around the longer way to avoid it.
I have had them throw up on me before while in Chennie lake. Its pretty rank.
Its the bits between birth and death that define a life well lived.
Joe (the guy that lost his firesteel) keeps in touch with the other guys and when he saw the frying pan in that episode, he texted and asked about it.
TXyakr,
Both the double breasted cormorant and the anhinga are protected by the Migratory Bird Treaty Act of 1918. Both are very common birds here in Florida. I have caught anhingas on fishing gear. We use shiners for live bait and occasionally an anhinga will take the bait. Unhooking them is a real treat as they try to impale you hand with their beak!
I don't recall ever hooking a cormorant.
Oh how funny, I was just about to post a thread about the kind of show that I'd actually enjoy watching or maybe be worth being in...and then I finally check out this thread - this show is actually a little interesting to watch. (I'm always interested in general stucture, goal, rules, and criteria for a show, among other things.)
I didn't bother looking at this thread because I don't even bother with survival shows anymore. They suck. And I don't get this channel anyway either...so I'm just now doing searches to check out this show and I'm behind everyone in here. I'm afraid that I won't be able to find every episode. Dagnabit, just when I gave up on these stupid shows.
Oh, I have SO much commentary, just on the first episode. And ya'll and the show are way ahead of me anyway, so I'll not bother on all the commentary. But oh boy, some of these guys, wow.
Oh and...that is such beautiful country. Mmmm...
post edit for question:
Oh man, they're not going to let us see the list of 40 from which they had to choose? Can't find it...thought one of you guys pointed to where this is, can't find that at the moment from where I'm at, but was that just lists of what they chose instead of the 40 they had to choose from?
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The pessimist complains about the wind;
The optimist expects it to change;
The realist adjusts the sails.
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