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    Default Ye Olde West in the movies, and Water.

    Wondered about this when I was a kid...

    The rough and tough gunslinger or cowboy, after riding who knows how far, comes into some dusty skeleton of a town on the frontier, walks into the saloon, and has some whiskey. Has all kinds of mis-adventures out in the frontier, exposed to the elements, with just a blanket and only one or two boyscout style canteens of water - which were probably just dipped into a river to refill. And this movie character often seems to have all his strength and wits about him, despite probable dehydration and over-exposure to the elements.

    I just didn't think, even as a kid, that I'd only want a few shots of whiskey everytime I stopped in some dusty town, and almost no water. Of course, we know that this is "just the movies."

    In a primitive or quasi-primitive survival situation, I tell people that shelter, all things being equal, can be the most important and immediate. But I can never help giving a speech about water as if it were the most important - just to make them really understand. The reason for this is because the issue of water is compounded so much: You lose brain and body function fast, so that your efforts to do anything else, including getting the water that you don't have yet, is greatly undermined; You cannot eat without drinkable water - to do so is like drinking ocean water; You cannot just gather water and sling it over your shoulder or under your arm - there are no trees which grow big jugs for practical volumes of water, before even making it drinkable; No matter whatever else you do each day, you need to also produce practical volumes of drinkable water every day - so you better have some method established by which you can do this without it taking all of your daylight hours so you can do other things, and you really shouldn't skip a single day without drinkable water.

    I don't even like the 3-3-3 thing when it comes to water. I instead like to say "at the end of your second day without water, you are already headed for actual death. (Because this includes the fact that by that time, your efforts to get water are severely handicapped mentally and physically) Do some yard work for a single hour, under the sun, in the middle of summer. Then remain outside for the rest of the day, and all that night, and all the next day. Don't go indoors. Have no chair or bed. Don't drink a single swallow of water.

    This usually makes people understand the reality...the truth derived from the experience, versus what they hear about or see on T.V. from a distance.
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    I agree.......but you drank whiskey or beer because the water will kill ya.
    What's your solution?

    Yeah, I know been hot down there lately.
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    Yes it is hot down here. Went to the range with a friend this morning. It was 98 degrees by 0930. It was 102 at my house by 1500 hours. God I miss the mountains. If it were not for the family I would be in Wyoming or New Mexico at 6500 feet!

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    I'm a bit lucky - the heat doesn't bother me as much as most 'round here. People just hate it, but I just say to myself "I am the fire". And I kinda just be the heat, such that it doesn't get to me.

    How rugged are the Ouachita Mountains anyway? Never been there. You?
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    Back to the OP...
    Drink up stream from the herd.
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    Beer was invented to make water safe to drink. I'm a big believer in safe water.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
    Beer was invented to make water safe to drink. I'm a big believer in safe water.
    As I am......also the rum ration was used to kinda kill off the nasty's.
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    If you do drink upstream from the herd don't forget and squat down with your spurs on.

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    Keep in mind that in the cowboy days a lot of saloons were more of an all in one store. A convience store in todays view, it would make sense to stop there!

    It's just cooler in a movie than the guy asking for coffee and some beans.

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    You apparently never met Trinity.

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    And that bouncing in the saddle was more from the beans than from the horse.

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    Beer, wine, hard cider, all made the water safe.
    My parents were in Egypt for 5 years (in the 80s.) There you didn't drink water out of the tap. And when visiting, you would drink hot tea. In the desert. Because the boiling made the water <relatively> safe to drink.
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