Modern Equipment... Blahhh!!!

[canid]

yeah you're a special case allright. but tell me this, can you show me on the doll where you where touched? wait, don't answer that.

[Rick]

Wine in the box, right? It's a multi use item you know.

[Rick]

yeah you're a special case allright. but tell me this, can you show me on the doll where you where touched?

Can I have a butcher knife?

[klkak]

"You dont have to be crazy to post here... we will train you"

How will I know that I'm all trained up?

[Rick]

It's the old catch 22, klkak. If you know you're trained then you aren't crazy. If you don't know you're trained then you are crazy but you won't know it.

[klkak]

I was hoping you could give me some kind of goal. Like when I hit 500 post or something like that.

[canid]

no no rick, i tried getting him to catch the .22 but it turns out he's not that crazy yet.

[Rick]

Klkak - See? Your question alone says you just aren't ready, Weedhopper. You still think like an outsider. We have no goals. Goals don't exist when you become one with the forum. Become a part of it. Allow it to control your mind.

[klkak]

OMG, What have I gotten myself into?

[klkak]

Whats that light?
Its so beautiful.
Its beckoning to me.
I must go to it....................ZZZZaaaaapppppp!

[canid]

ok; you're in. here's your membership hat. that's genuine aluminum.

[Rick]

Good. Now that we got rid of HIM. I'm still a little miffed over that whole tomahawk thing.

[klkak]

Ok! fine! you can have the tomahawk!
I'll go make my own!

Um..., What tomahawk are we talking about anyway?

[Alpine_Sapper]

What I really find interesting is that their are some "outdoor" shows on and they say that a foam pad is a must......now maybe when you get a little older ya like that kind of thing..
Have to admit my hips do not take as kindly to the hard ground as they used..but it is not a necessity, is that not why nature supplies nice pine boughs.....or soft grass...ahhhh
But in this man made society we must BUY something to feel comfortable.
Heck if they can sell pine cones and sprigs of cedar at Christmas to the masses, stuff that comes free in nature...... I am sure a foam pad is and easy sell......lmao

Um, the foam ground pads are more about insulation than comfort. That whole heat loss through conduction thing and all.

And in following good "leave no trace" ethics, you may not always be able to find that "comfy" natural padding laying around on the ground, or grass where you're going to stop at for the night.

[nell67]

Ok! fine! you can have the tomahawk!
I'll go make my own!

Um..., What tomahawk are we talking about anyway?

The tomahawk in the "homemade tomahawk" thread.You asked,he said yes

[klkak]

Nell, I know. It was a lame attempt at being funny.

[commoguy]

I'm tempted to buy a ridgerest pad since I do wake up at least 4 times during the night readjusting myself. Other than that, I agree with you. Too many people bring their home crap. I went out on a trip with two high school friends last year and they brought for a day trip (and you can't make this stuff up):

12-person tent (mind you, I was in my own tarptent so there was only two people in this monster)
Jumprope and weights (one of my friends couldn't miss his daily workout...)
magazines and books (for when it gets 'boring at dusk')
fold-up 'camp' furniture (x3... they really thought I needed one... I'm happy with a rock or stump)
metal grill (to put over the fire for hotdog grilling)
hotdogs, pop, yogurt, and all other kinds of refrigerated perishables
50gallon cooler to store the aforementioned
INFLATABLE FULL-SIZE MATTRESSES (x2)
ELECTRIC AIR PUMP FOR MATTRESSES
battery powered alarm clock
bag (literally a paper bag from a grocery store) of donuts, danishes, and random stuff (x2, one for each of them)

I am NEVER taking them camping again. Or if I do, we are not going to car camp so they'll be forced to carry all the crap they want to bring.

personally and no offense to you but i see your view as one sided. yes there are alot of niceties they brought BUT everyones definition of camping is different. i mean it is one thing to go out in the woods with your buddies to camp and bs but it is another completely to go survival camping. your disapproval of their "camping" gear may discourage them from going out and enjoying the wilderness. next time why not issue a challenge to see if they can make it a weekend with bare necessities and explain it a bit.

[canid]

yeah alpine i have to agree. much as i like my zero degree bag, i couldn't sleep on snow in it alone, on the other hand, in 25f. or colder conditions i could easily sleep on the ridgerest pad with a $12 kmart bag, barring high wind chill. it weighs half a pound or so and it's worth it to me. it also insulates a person from runoff to a reasonable extent, which helped me out in the hoh rainforest.

i prefer my hammock, but when i tried to sleep in that in winter '04 in Payette NF i almost lost my tender-bits. that night was -20f with the wind and i would have liked to have had it at the time.

i like to have options, even if i can usually leave them at home.

[Sam]

Klkak - See? Your question alone says you just aren't ready, Weedhopper. You still think like an outsider. We have no goals. Goals don't exist when you become one with the forum. Become a part of it. Allow it to control your mind.

Joining is belonging. Pass the kool-aid.

[Rick]

Sam knows. He and the forum are one.

Canid - Which Ridge Rest do you use? The Deluxe or the Regular. I've held off on buying one because I don't want to drop a sawbuck on a pad but the Ridge Rest is half that price. I was just wondering which you use and how well you like it.