Modern Equipment... Blahhh!!!

[crashdive123]

What in the world does squid have to do with.......Oh....Kalahari, not kalamari.

[zaebra]

i personally pack modern, but i pack light (about 11 pounds for a 4-6 day pack currently). don't get me wrong, i'm all for extreme survivalism with ancient technologies and materials, but those types of things are HEAVY. i use ancient tools made with modern methods. i don't have an ipod, dvd player, electronic bug repeller, or any other such nonsense. about the only things that don't have an ancient counterpart are the flashlight and bug spray. bear spray is a gimme, because that's not even funny.

[klkak]

I recently had Alaska Tent and Tarp make me a tarp out of the material they use for the fly on their Arctic Oven tent. It is 10'x10', 2" border and brass grommets. It only weighs about a pound and folds up pretty small and tight. I have been fooling around seeing how many different shelters I can make with it. I've come up with a couple that work well with my cot.

[canid]

nice to hear. i love the versatility of tarps. i mean i can always make it a tent when i need to, but a manufactured tent makes a poor fly tarp

[dragonchi]

What I really find interesting is that their are some "outdoor" shows on and they say that a foam pad is a must......now maybe when you get a little older ya like that kind of thing..
Have to admit my hips do not take as kindly to the hard ground as they used..but it is not a necessity, is that not why nature supplies nice pine boughs.....or soft grass...ahhhh
But in this man made society we must BUY something to feel comfortable.
Heck if they can sell pine cones and sprigs of cedar at Christmas to the masses, stuff that comes free in nature...... I am sure a foam pad is and easy sell......lmao

[dragonchi]

Thanks for the welcome and Intro done....probably will add more later..
You know this is a great group....no egos,,,just good fun and advice....
well just kickin back with my two dogs and reading more back posts.....
This may take awhile....

[Rick]

Well, you might be laughing but I don't see a problem with them. You don't have to be old to appreciate them either. Nature has a way of dropping injuries on the old body that makes comfort sort of nice. I don't carry one myself but that's only because I don't want to drop 80-90 for one. I don't go around hacking pine boughs down either. My jaw sort of gets locked a bit when I happen upon a place where someone has butchered a tree. Sort of spoils the beauty for me. Don't have a problem with it if it's a need to situation but I can't see choosing that path for all my camping.

[Ridge Wolf]

What I really find interesting is that their are some "outdoor" shows on and they say that a foam pad is a must......now maybe when you get a little older ya like that kind of thing..
Have to admit my hips do not take as kindly to the hard ground as they used..but it is not a necessity, is that not why nature supplies nice pine boughs.....or soft grass...ahhhh
But in this man made society we must BUY something to feel comfortable.
Heck if they can sell pine cones and sprigs of cedar at Christmas to the masses, stuff that comes free in nature...... I am sure a foam pad is and easy sell......lmao

Foam pads are now high tech btw, with specialty foam and covers for it no doubt.. stiffer foam where the body's weight is the heaviest.

[klkak]

My military cot was free, my most expensive sleeping bag was less than $200 on sale and my sleeping mat I got on sale at "Sportsmans warehouse" for $30. When I leave the woods this stuff leaves with me. Oh and I sleep pretty darn good to.

[Tony uk]

Oooo Weights, I thought the idea was to cut down on the heavy stuff, Walking about the woods with a pack on is a good workout anyway.

[Rick]

"Where to, sir?"
"To the ridge, James. I think I'll camp out tonight."
"Very good, sir. Shall I put the Phantom in four wheel drive?"
"Let's. It's such great fun."
(James pulling chauffeur's hat down tighter) "Oh, thank you, sir. Hold on to your socks, as it were".

[klkak]

Rick, what are you trying to convey with that post?

[Rick]

Luxury in the wilderness? Comfort in the bush? Obviously, I failed. (Saddened, he walked away from the keyboard).

[klkak]

Oh, I thought maybe you were casting aspersions in my direction.

[canid]

no no rick, that was right on point i think. good show sir. spot of tea?

klkak: you'll have to get used to him, he had a bad fever as a child and the doctors say it's permanent....

[Rick]

I've cast spinners and top water lures. But I've never cast aspersions. I think I looked at them once but they were too expensive for my tastes.

[Ole WV Coot]

I kinda like my ATV also. I ain't as young anymore(can't tell by looking) so I kinda like the convenience of having it carry me and my stuff. If I am going more than a few miles into the woods I use it, carry lots of goodies and even sleep on it. The primitive folks can get a mule and load it up if they want but my Rincon is the only way to go when we go up to 60 miles off road. I kinda look at it like a modern day mule.

[trax]

I kinda like your ATV too Coot, can I have it?

*ever since klkak got lucky with that tomahawk, I can't stop myself, and it looks like I struck out with Rick's handgun, so....*

[Rick]

klkak: you'll have to get used to him, he had a bad fever as a child and the doctors say it's permanent....

Canid, I'll have you know people refer to me as touched. You know the good Lord don't touch just anyone. Why, just the other day someone made the comment that I'm not running on all cylinders. How's that for a compliment? Most folks require all of them but not me. I can get by with one less. Lot's of folks have referred to me as special, too.

[Ridge Wolf]

"Where to, sir?"
"To the ridge, James. I think I'll camp out tonight."
"Very good, sir. Shall I put the Phantom in four wheel drive?"
"Let's. It's such great fun."
(James pulling chauffeur's hat down tighter) "Oh, thank you, sir. Hold on to your socks, as it were". Luxury in the wilderness? Comfort in the bush? Obviously, I failed. (Saddened, he walked away from the keyboard).

Over here we have the luxury of caviar from the sturgeon we catch and fine wine here on the ridge...

Come one, come all to the ridge... we'll manage.