Survival gun

[kyratshooter]

I understand a lot of you are small homesteaders, and this is more every day gear than "survival gear" But surely you guys have an emergency vehicle bag in the event you come home and your house is gone? All that gear in your house does you no good if it's all in your house, and not with you. Without trying to sound rude, I didn't have an interest in the "gun sitting in the corner by your back door" I am more interested to know if you have a small rifle designated for a vehicle or bag, in the event you don't have the guns in your home. It sounds like most people have either a truck shotgun/rifle, or at least their carry.

So, as much as I hate the term "Bug out" bag, this was more geared towards the bag/bags you have with you for a disaster. I guess only an EDC or vehicle bag.

Again, you do but you don't, you will but you won't, you don't care but you do, so sorry for you.

No is not an acceptable answer, and yes is not an acceptable answer.

Every conversation anyone enters with you becomes ridicule and argument that has no end.

the others can toss you around for a while but you just made my ignore list.

[wilderness medic]

This also goes back to the carry thread. Those of us that carry everywhere have our weapons on us all the time. They aren't stored in a vehicle. Since none of my vehicles have a trunk that would mean they would have to be in the open somewhere unless they are a pistol, which we carry. Having a long gun open in a vehicle, even cased, is sort of asking for it to be stolen. There is no place in my truck that a long gun could be hidden.

So it sounds like some do some don't. I agree it seems like it's sort of asking to be stolen.

Again, you do but you don't, you will but you won't, you don't care but you do, so sorry for you.

No is not an acceptable answer, and yes is not an acceptable answer.

Every conversation anyone enters with you becomes ridicule and argument that has no end.

the others can toss you around for a while but you just made my ignore list.

Ouch my feelings Sorry you're so grumpy. Did you know if you don't want to participate, you don't have to? Amazing isn't it. Yes is an acceptable answer and so is no. So is discussing, the point of an open forum I might add. Next time i'll just agree with everything and not ask questions. Oh KY, thank you , I agree with everything you say, I don't need an opinion or the option to think for myself.

You're controntationalism started back on my SCAR thread when you misunderstood me and insinuated I bought something as a table top show piece to impress people.

[kyratshooter]

Sorry WM, I can not reply, you are just a white strip on the screen that tells me you are still there.

[wilderness medic]

But yet you still took the time to reply to let me know, thanks for taking time out of your day to make sure I knew how much you dislike me

[kyratshooter]

OK, someone PM me and let me know,

Has he gone into the personal attack and degrading insult stage yet, or is he in self righteous persecution phase ?

[wilderness medic]

Wow, you are hilarious. If you want to know what I have to say why'd you put my on ignore? Someone PM what he's saying! LOL!!!!! It must be raining outside again right? How old are you again? And no that's not a personal attack, it's my opinion that you're acting childish and resorting to a game of sorts like that.

[kyratshooter]

California ?

[hunter63]

Consider this........
If you call it a survival gun....surviving....that's a good thing right?

So it could be "Honey, gonna be needing me a "survival" gun.......Guys are talking about them again"

She, "Well, Dear ,what about all the rifles, shot guns, and pistol you already have.....I mean before the canoe incident?'

Me, "Those are for other stuff, I talking real survival, you wanna survive?....Right?"

She, "Good Idea Dear.....better go find a good one".


I rest my case.

[crashdive123]

Krat - I think you're off base here.

As Rick stated, it is not an issue or a consideration for many because they usually have a firearm with them. For a few - they do have a dedicated truck or bag gun.

I see this as a very pertinent topic by the OP based on gun laws where he lives (not everybody can or wants to move right now) and what he has recently experienced with the fire.

There was certainly no ridicule or argument coming from him - just what I perceived to be a serious question. Remember - we all have different experiences and miles behind us.

[kyratshooter]

OK Crash, then the answer to the OP is NO, just as it was in the first 9 replies from me and others, which do not seem to have been acceptable.

And the problem will not occur again.

[crashdive123]

No or none is an acceptable answer. I saw it merely as a question looking for what other members here chose to do. If that answer is no, then so be it.

[randyt]

Consider this........
If you call it a survival gun....surviving....that's a good thing right?

So it could be "Honey, gonna be needing me a "survival" gun.......Guys are talking about them again"

She, "Well, Dear ,what about all the rifles, shot guns, and pistol you already have.....I mean before the canoe incident?'

Me, "Those are for other stuff, I talking real survival, you wanna survive?....Right?"

She, "Good Idea Dear.....better go find a good one".


I rest my case.

lets not forget about spares and spares for our spares.

[natertot]

I agree with KyRat said regarding that a lot of us view our gear as sports gear first and then pressed into survival gear as needed. I live in a subdivision and definitely fall into that category. It is great when the power goes out and the neighborhood freaks out not knowing what to do. Me? I head to the back yard and start a fire in the fire pit. Next I fill up the coolers and cook some dinner. After that, it playing cards or board games on the picnic table. Maybe let the kiddos run around with water guns. If power isn't on by night, pitch a tent up cause it's much cooler outside than inside at night. Next morning I wake refreshed and ready to cook breakfast while everyone around me appears to be ready to fall out to heat exhaustion.

That is kinda how it works for me.

Wilderness Medic, I think that crash is right about you. You were/are asking a sincere question. I think what befalls you is the presentation. It seems the way you say things can be confusing. Not wrong, just a bit hard to understand in entirety. A response is given (the best it can given the confusion) and you're not happy with it because it doesn't match up to what you are seeking, because the responder was confused. This cycle happens a few times and it does begin to appear that you are jerking the proverbial chain a bit. Not that you are, it just somewhat give that impression.

I'm not saying any of that to give you a hard time. Just trying to help you understand where some folks are coming from. KyRat is a great guy. I have met up with him a few times and he is absolutely the most knowledgeable gun guy here. I hope you can make amends with him cause you can learn a lot from him and he is willing to share is knowledge to those that are open minded to learning.

[Tokwan]

Hehe..okay okay, no more getting sore on anyone else..I have only two..one a Colt 45 pistol a nd an Anschultz ( don't mind the spelling, I always spell it wrong), D series .22 rifle..that 's about the only huntingm protect my self, protect my family, survival, go to war gun that I have.

[wilderness medic]

I agree with KyRat said regarding that a lot of us view our gear as sports gear first and then pressed into survival gear as needed. I live in a subdivision and definitely fall into that category. It is great when the power goes out and the neighborhood freaks out not knowing what to do. Me? I head to the back yard and start a fire in the fire pit. Next I fill up the coolers and cook some dinner. After that, it playing cards or board games on the picnic table. Maybe let the kiddos run around with water guns. If power isn't on by night, pitch a tent up cause it's much cooler outside than inside at night. Next morning I wake refreshed and ready to cook breakfast while everyone around me appears to be ready to fall out to heat exhaustion.

That is kinda how it works for me.

Wilderness Medic, I think that crash is right about you. You were/are asking a sincere question. I think what befalls you is the presentation. It seems the way you say things can be confusing. Not wrong, just a bit hard to understand in entirety. A response is given (the best it can given the confusion) and you're not happy with it because it doesn't match up to what you are seeking, because the responder was confused. This cycle happens a few times and it does begin to appear that you are jerking the proverbial chain a bit. Not that you are, it just somewhat give that impression.

I'm not saying any of that to give you a hard time. Just trying to help you understand where some folks are coming from. KyRat is a great guy. I have met up with him a few times and he is absolutely the most knowledgeable gun guy here. I hope you can make amends with him cause you can learn a lot from him and he is willing to share is knowledge to those that are open minded to learning.

There only thing wrong with the first couple answers is they had nothing to do with what I was asking. I did ask it in a confusing way, that's my fault for not being able to convey what I was really trying to ask and I apologize. If I sound like i'm unappreciative or rude, again I apologize. I am not. Anything I say in the future or have said that seems rude is most likely a good humored joke, i'm not here to throw personal insults or stir things up. Thank you for pointing our what I may be doing wrong to cause this. It's the internet, things often don't come out with the same "tone of voice" etc. I thoroughly enjoy this site and its members and appreciate the knowledge available here.

Ky may be a great guy. I've enjoyed his knowledgeable posts about firearms for several years and appreciated them. However a lot of respect I had for him is going away. How many times has he brought up where I live and tried to use it as a personal insult? Pure rude ignorance. I've lived in KY and I can think of about 49 other states I would live in. But i'm not going to sit here and throw it at him in an insulting way and base what he says off his "Kentucky logic". Everyone has their own tastes and if he chooses to live there, his decision, and I respect he likes it. Just about every post interaction i've had with him so far has been negative, mostly based on his disagreement with my choices/beliefs. I can respect his and not results to the "personal attack and degrading insult stage".

[Rick]

Actually, I think you misunderstood. Most references to California is about the political climate and the anti-gun agenda they seem to be so proud of. No one disses the state otherwise.

We all need to remember that the forum is a two dimensional medium. When you can't see the other speaker it makes it really hard sometimes to understand what they are saying or how they mean it. Everyone is always welcome to attack the message but never the messenger. We can disagree and still be ladies and gentlemen.

I did remove some language from your post, WM, that I thought was inappropriate. Just a heads up on that.

[wilderness medic]

Actually, I think you misunderstood. Most references to California is about the political climate and the anti-gun agenda they seem to be so proud of. No one disses the state otherwise.

We all need to remember that the forum is a two dimensional medium. When you can't see the other speaker it makes it really hard sometimes to understand what they are saying or how they mean it. Everyone is always welcome to attack the message but never the messenger. We can disagree and still be ladies and gentlemen.

I did remove some language from your post, WM, that I thought was inappropriate. Just a heads up on that.

In KYs posts it seemed obvious that it was thrown around more as an insult. How is the one liner above "California?" while he's expressing his dislike for me anything else? If it is and I misunderstood sorry. You are right, not seeing the other speaker makes it hard to see any inflection or inference one something typed.

Can you please PM what was removed so I can avoid it again? I read that twice and thought nothing bad was in it.

[hunter63]

Not gonna belabor this, But.
Looking at your posts from this thread, that you stared, was a question about who does or what does one consider or carry....

When serious responses came in....seems your position was making fun or letting others know that you didn't consider it a requirement.

I'm getting a passive/aggressive vibe, (trolling technique) that is apparent to others as well.....and this goes back to some of your posts in the afraid of camping along thread. #30 being one.

I hope not,... as we all either are for, against or neutral on guns.......an infighting amongst the for seems to sway the neutrals.

Time will tell.........
I'm done.
Returning to the regularly scheduled "ask a question then trash the answers".....Thread.



I hope not

[wilderness medic]

Not gonna belabor this, But.
Looking at your posts from this thread, that you stared, was a question about who does or what does one consider or carry....

When serious responses came in....seems your position was making fun or letting others know that you didn't consider it a requirement.

I'm getting a passive/aggressive vibe, (trolling technique) that is apparent to others as well.....and this goes back to some of your posts in the afraid of camping along thread. #30 being one.

I hope not,... as we all either are for, against or neutral on guns.......an infighting amongst the for seems to sway the neutrals.

Time will tell.........
I'm done.
Returning to the regularly scheduled "ask a question then trash the answers".....Thread.



I hope not

Please, for the love of god, quote where I made fun of someone.

Consider what a requirement? That the term "survival" be placed in front of it? Who is trashing your answer, feel free to quote me, please. I have read, and reread this thread, and do not see where I have said none of your answers were good enough, or trashed them. I asked the question in a manner I didn't mean to, and corrected myself. Your answers didn't apply because I ASKED IT WRONG.

Post #30 in that thread as well, as I fail to see any "Passive/aggressiveness" mainly for in order for that term to apply one would first have to act aggressively. Please show me in that post where I acted aggressively. Was it the part where I agreed if you can carry a gun everywhere, do it, I don't blame you? (Now i'm being facetious).

Here comes the pack mentality. Is my apology not good enough for you? I am not a troll, if I was I wouldn't have donated money I don't have to this site to help out other members. Now i'm getting really dissuaded from this place.

[hunter63]

You know,..... I was wrong....and over reacted.....I apologize.