Escape from NYC Bug-out Ebola Edition

[hunterp]

[wilderness medic]

Only part way in but a few things.

Is this a vehicle bag? If not that bag is going to be horrendous carrying a long distance on foot.

I wouldn't go as far as saying the sawyer will let you drink sewer water. There are things it doesn't filter, like heavy metals, viruses, and salts(destroys filter). Urine contains salt.

Haven't gotten to the food breakdown but that looks like a lot of unnecessary weight, especially those fans of tuna. A lot better options.

The watch vs compass can be debated. An analog watch can be used for direction as well as other options. Unless you need to shoot a specific azimuth topography and general directions can be used, especially in a city with major landmarks everywhere.

Is replace that water canister with a 1L bottle of smart water and a 1L platypus. Once you drink the smart water you can use the bottle to fill the tiny rolled up platypus much easier than those sawyer squeeze pouches, especially from standing water


I would also ditch the change of clothes. Unless it's purely a vehicle bag and you have the space.


Going to finish now.

Ok done. Just a few little things but you can save weight and space ditching the food packaging, and switch to tuna pouches. A lot of water weight in cans.

I assume in the city there is a ton of shelter to be found but perhaps a simple tarp at least to wrap up in during rain?

On the right track. Liked watching it. Can use a lot of fine tuning, but a lot of it is simple little stuff. I have to admit it was funny you named this "Ebola edition" and all you present is sanitizer lol.

[hunter63]

"Ebola edition"?.......Hummmm marketing buzz word these days?

Didn't see protective suit, goggles, face mask, gloves, disposable booties. Bicycle helmet?
Wipes, bleach, iodine,
Flashlight. flashlight, batteries.

Will you get stopped and searched with a pack, tools and a big knife?

Steel toe boots?
Change of undies and socks....the rest isn't necessary.
Poncho

Agree on lighter foods......energy bars good, and anything that can just be eaten with out cooking.

Tip on cash.....keep in several different places, have both small and large bills....no one will make change....guy wants $20 bucks for something....you have a $100, gonna cost you that $100.

Looks like a pretty good basic kit.

PS Have you tried it out yet?......stuff looks new.

[wilderness medic]

"Ebola edition"?.......Hummmm marketing buzz word these days?

I think so. I almost peed when I saw the only thing that addressed the title of the video was a small bottle of hand sanitizer.

[hayshaker]

did,nt see the video i have dail up. but as for the tuna it,s most likely contaminated with cesium -137 and lord only knows
what else. energy bars,jerky,peanutbutter,spam like that carbs fat and protien. and like hunter said wheres the bio suit?
just saying.

[wilderness medic]

did,nt see the video i have dail up. but as for the tuna it,s most likely contaminated with cesium -137 and lord only knows
.

Lol.............................



"Yes, radiation in seafood seems scary. But here's the catch (if you pardon the expression). Tuna, like every other food on the planet, already contains naturally occurring radiation. It has potassium-40 and polonium-210. It always has and it always will. In addition, seafood in general contains a trace of cesium-137 left over from nuclear weapons testing in the 1950s and 1960s.

So the question is, how much more radiation did these particular tuna fish contain? The answer is: A trivial amount. In fact, radiation from the cesium is 30 times less than the radiation that's already in the fish naturally in the form of potassium-40, according to the research paper. And the natural polonium-210 packs a radiation dose 200 times larger than the dose from the cesium."

[kyratshooter]

Sorry, don't mean to be rude, but these are some of the most irritating videos I have ever encountered.

I have not made it 30 seconds into any of them.

Life's too short.

[Rick]

If you are bugging out for any reason then you are a refugee just like everyone else. Why worry about fitting in? Folks will be carrying all manner of things. The color of your pack is of no concern. Here's an image from 9/11. Do you think it will matter what you are carrying?

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Why the debate on watch vs compass? They are both small. Take both.

The one thing you don't have is a small radio. Wouldn't it be nice to know what's going on in the world? How are you going to know if you are running away from something or toward something even worse? Communication is essential and your cell phone might be dead in the water.

I don't care what you carry with you. The fact that you are doing something, anything to mitigate your situation is commendable. As others have mentioned, however, there are better, lighter options available especially in the food category. And remember, you might be injured making your exodus and that could limit what you are taking.

The other thing to consider is you may not have an option on which direction you travel. Depending on the the threat you might only have one or two choices. What if you are forced to head east? What then?

[hunter63]

Lol.............................



"Yes, radiation in seafood seems scary. But here's the catch (if you pardon the expression). Tuna, like every other food on the planet, already contains naturally occurring radiation. It has potassium-40 and polonium-210. It always has and it always will. In addition, seafood in general contains a trace of cesium-137 left over from nuclear weapons testing in the 1950s and 1960s.

So the question is, how much more radiation did these particular tuna fish contain? The answer is: A trivial amount. In fact, radiation from the cesium is 30 times less than the radiation that's already in the fish naturally in the form of potassium-40, according to the research paper. And the natural polonium-210 packs a radiation dose 200 times larger than the dose from the cesium."

Yeah, I don't worry about what's in my food either....the rules and inspections will catch any nasty stuff, that why we pay taxes to hire specialist...so why worry.

I sure there is a research paper around that will back that up.....

[wilderness medic]

Yeah, I don't worry about what's in my food either....the rules and inspections will catch any nasty stuff, that why we pay taxes to hire specialist...so why worry.

I sure there is a research paper around that will back that up.....

Not saying there aren't skewed papers and ulterior agendas, but people panic too much and avoid foods over it. I have a dive buddy who eats almost exclusively seafood. Blowing the recommended portions exponentially out of the water. Just to see he had his blood tested. Mercury levels were slightly elevated, but not even in the same universe as a concerning level.

If you want to worry about and small traces of bad chemicals never eat almonds. They contain cyanide, and cyanide is baaaaad....

[hunter63]

Having to take several meds a day, several times a day....I have to believe that in the long run they are not good for me either.

But will allow me to live longer so as the bad effects have a chance to build up and hurt me.....by then it will all be over with anyway.

Doc says 2 beers a day are helpful...or at least won't hurt too much....so as to not fall behind, I try to keep ahead of the curve.

[Arctic Fox]

I'm not sure bugging out of NYC would be the best option. Imagine this, ebola begins to spread in New York, and a ton of people decide they want to leave before risking infection. So now we have hundreds (at least) of people trying to leave New York all around the same time. There would be tons of people in cars, on bikes, and on foot all trying to leave. The problem is that the incubation period for ebola is 21 days, so if you bugout with a ton of other people, there is a chance that someone in that large group has ebola but is not showing symptoms yet. Being in a large group of people you don't know is not the best situation to be in when trying to avoid an infectious disease. Bugging IN might be a tad more effective in this scenario. That's just my opinion though.

[hunter63]

If you are bugging out for any reason then you are a refugee just like everyone else. Why worry about fitting in? Folks will be carrying all manner of things. The color of your pack is of no concern. Here's an image from 9/11. Do you think it will matter what you are carrying?

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Why the debate on watch vs compass? They are both small. Take both.

The one thing you don't have is a small radio. Wouldn't it be nice to know what's going on in the world? How are you going to know if you are running away from something or toward something even worse? Communication is essential and your cell phone might be dead in the water.

I don't care what you carry with you. The fact that you are doing something, anything to mitigate your situation is commendable. As others have mentioned, however, there are better, lighter options available especially in the food category. And remember, you might be injured making your exodus and that could limit what you are taking.

The other thing to consider is you may not have an option on which direction you travel. Depending on the the threat you might only have one or two choices. What if you are forced to head east? What then?

Rick, these are excellent points.....we get caught up in making bob bags gear and such....which doesn't do much good if you don't have it with you and are hauling butt on out of a bad situation.

I do like the radio idea, carry one in my hunting fanny pack.......and have a hand held Walkie-Talkie that had an FM function...that quit.
Just found a $3 buck FM radio about the size of a book of matches....at the dollar store...works pretty well, we will see how it lasts.

[BENESSE]

I'm not sure bugging out of NYC would be the best option. Imagine this, ebola begins to spread in New York, and a ton of people decide they want to leave before risking infection. So now we have hundreds (at least) of people trying to leave New York all around the same time. There would be tons of people in cars, on bikes, and on foot all trying to leave. The problem is that the incubation period for ebola is 21 days, so if you buyout with a ton of other people, there is a chance that someone in that large group has ebola but is not showing symptoms yet. Being a large group of people you don't know is not the best situation to be in when trying to avoid an infectious disease. Bugging IN might be a tad more effective in this scenario. That's just my opinion though.

That's exactly right.
Hunker down in your own sealed, well provisioned place and ride it out. I can do that a whole lot better than hoofing it ANYwhere out of Manhattan especially with thousands of others. Bad enough getting around during the Christmas season.

[Arctic Fox]

Especially if all you have to protect against ebola is a bottle of hand sanitizer

[Rick]

The biggest fear you have with ebola is it hits Latin America. There would be no halting it from crossing the border. It will never be an epidemic in this country but the border towns would sure have their hands full.

[rebel]

If I lived on an island I'd have a boat.

[wilderness medic]

I'm looking hard. Don't see where you replied at all.

[rebel]

I'm looking hard. Don't see where you replied at all.

I'd have a boat if I lived on an island.

[wilderness medic]

I'd have a boat if I lived on an island.

LOL not you sorry. Hunterp. He's been just using this site as advertisement, and stated he has replied to this thread.