Confronting Active Shooters

[Ken]

This makes all the sense in the world. Wouldn't it make even more sense if more civilians were armed and ready to act before 13 were killed?

“Prior to Columbine, the protocol was to surround the building and wait for SWAT. That can take 45 minutes,” he said. “(Now) we pull together five or six officers and get them into the building. She said the suspect was still shooting when officers encountered and shot him.”

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion...k_action_in_dc

[woodsman86]

Couldn't agree more. This was a hot topic yesterday at the federal building here. Lots of agencies were abuzz as a result of the on going situation. There is really no security measures to 100% prevent such incidents, but the faster you can get opposing forces on scene the sooner it will end.

One of my co-workers said it worries him that a few employees carry when legaly they shouldn't be. I told it is not the ones who carry that worry me, but the ones that suddenly bring a gun to work. Personally we would all be off with basic training and a carry permit.

[Old GI]

Military installations are "gun-free zones". Concealed carry is prohibited except for law enforcement and a very few others. Wonder why this issue wasn't widely brought forward after Fort Hood. I do not carry, even just in my vehicle, to and from work on a military base. I'm sure I would get picked up on a "random search".

[natertot]

That was something I never understood in the Navy. We all had to get firearms training, but the only ones that ever had a firearm were the <1% on watch.

The more people and sooner you can oppose the enemy, the better. Right?

[LowKey]

Aren't all bases gun free zones?

My question is, if you are an armed civilian, how do you avoid being taken out as a second shooter? And don't tell me to get a CCW badge and wave it in the air. If I had to use a concealed weapon to aim at an active shooter in a situation that involves other civilians, I'd be using both hands on the gun. (And hope I never ever have to make the decision)

[woodsman86]

Aren't all bases gun free zones?

My question is, if you are an armed civilian, how do you avoid being taken out as a second shooter? And don't tell me to get a CCW badge and wave it in the air. If I had to use a concealed weapon to aim at an active shooter in a situation that involves other civilians, I'd be using both hands on the gun. (And hope I never ever have to make the decision)

Calculated risk and dropping to the ground when the cavalry arrives.

[Batch]

This has been debated for ever. A police shirt, hat , or vest may save you a valuable second to drop your gun. Some guys have what are called active shooter kits in their vehicles. A rifle, a bag with mags and kit, and a police identifier.

If you are CCw and you plan on responding to an active shooter event. Stay concealed and if you have no experience in the outcome of a rifle against a handgun. Get edjumicated. You are fixin to get killed in most cases.

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