Oh, let's see...Originally Posted by welderguy
Having a double standard, propping up bad a$$es who come back to bite us, meddling in centuries old squabbles of which we we have no understanding and no prayer of fixing and getting into places we have no business being in. There's much more, but this alone is not helping us win friends and influence people.
We haven't won a war since World War II because Washington runs them.
Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth.
Or could it be that the mission was well defined and there was no doubt who the enemy was? Or that we had allies, fighting and dying for the same cause and in their own back yard?
I have to agree with HighHawk. If we want to play war then let the warriors define the battlefield. The politicians can handle the diplomacy right after our warriors thump them on their turf.
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The warriors don't decide whether we should go to war in the first place, nor should they. Once the WH declares war, the warriors should be allowed to do their job. Doesn't seem that complicated.
Where's General Patton when you need him?
If we are to have another contest in…our national existence I predict that the dividing line will not be Mason and Dixon's, but between patriotism & intelligence on the one side, and superstition, ambition & ignorance on the other…
~ President Ulysses S. Grant
Unfortunately those that declare war don't see it that way.
War should be so horrific, violent, and swift that people, armies and countries dare not go down that path.
"Piratical activity by Muslim populations had been known in Mediterranean since at least the 9th century and the short-lived Emirate of Crete. Despite the animosity generated by the Crusades, the level of Muslim pirate activity was relatively low. In the 13th and 14th century it was rather Christian pirates, particularly out of Catalonia, that had been the constant threat to merchants. It was not until the late 14th century that Tunisian corsairs had become enough of a threat to provoke a Franco-Genoese attack on Mahdia in 1390, also known as the "Barbary Crusade". Moorish exiles of the Reconquista and Maghreb pirates added to the numbers, but it was not until the expansion of the Ottoman Empire and the arrival of the privateer and admiral Kemal Reis in 1487 that the Barbary corsairs became a true menace to Christian shipping.[4]
The Barbary pirates had long attacked British and other European shipping along the North Coast of Africa. They had been attacking British merchant and passengers ships since the 1600s. The many captives required regular fundraising by families and local church groups, who generally raised the ransoms for individuals. The British became familiar with captivity narratives written by Barbary pirates' prisoners and some whom were sold into Arab slavery before the North American colonies were well established.[5] This was decades before English colonists became subject to captivity by Native Americans and began to write their own narratives.
During the American Revolution, the pirates attacked American ships. On December 20, 1777, Morocco's Sultan Mohammed III declared that the American merchant ships would be under the protection of the sultanate and could thus enjoy safe passage into the Mediterranean and along the coast. The Moroccan-American Treaty of Friendship stands as the U.S.'s oldest non-broken friendship treaty[6][7] with a foreign power. In 1787 Morocco had been one of the first nations to recognize the United States.[8]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbary_pirates
“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.”
W. Edwards Deming
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils."
General John Stark
Never stopped us before.
Seems like our soldiers are expendable for the most idiotic reasons; as long as we kill "them", doesn't matter how many of ours have to die. Even one is too many in my book, if it's for all the wrong reasons and it's not going to make one bit of difference in the long run.
Nuclear weapons have not been used since Hiroshima and Nagasaki because of the level of destruction and the pain that followed. We have not risen to that level of horrific since.
maybe its time for history to repeat itself !
I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"
I am reading DIRTY WARS by "Jeremy Scahill" and I am NOT happy with what I am reading. This is a painful book for me to read. I wanted to know, but now I wish that I had not wanted to know.
If it ever does, it would be ten fold, WD. TEOTWAWKI, you can be sure.
Sadly that is all too true.
I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"
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“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.”
W. Edwards Deming
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils."
General John Stark
We need someone who is well known to lead the war on terrorism. Someone who will shamelessly move forward regardless past mistakes. Someone we all know has a set of gonads. And so, I nominate Anthony Weiner for the job. All we have to do is take his cell phone away.
“Learning is not compulsory. Neither is survival.”
W. Edwards Deming
"Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils."
General John Stark
Well my humble opinion, after being in Operation Desert Shield/Storm and doing a little PMC work is that you can't just kill the lead dog, or the next alpha male will take over the pack. To eradicate the problem you take out the entire pack otherwise it's an ongoing problem. Personally I say slaughter the entire pack, sounds like genocide huh? Well these jackwagons follow a corrupted mind, corrupted religion (not all of Islam is like that), doing things that no worthy religion or God would tell you to do. So wipe'um out and good riddance. Nowhere in the Quran does it tell anyone to fill a car full of explosives, strap explosives to your chest, or build small devices to blow up or kill infidels (which only means nonbeliever), or to take a life, in my time over in the sandbox and the Stan I learned that true Islam is a very peaceful, accepting, and forgiving religion. But there is always a radical right wing element that goes to the extremes and carries things to far, these radicals must be eradicated, or the radical extreme violent teachings, thoughts, and actions will always continue. Just my 2¢ worth.
There is no greater solitude than that of the Tracker in the forest, unless perhaps it's that of the wolf in the wilderness.
Oh and the U.S. Gooberment (yes I meant it that way) should give the U.S. military their mission, AND LET THEM DO IT, tell the commanding general what you want accomplished and let him and his military do the job they've trained for, don't tie their hands, set rules of war because we're the only ones following them and that joke of a Geneva Convention, to heck with the United Nations, they're undertrained cowards and they su¢k. Just another humble opinion.
Last edited by Rick; 07-24-2013 at 07:19 PM. Reason: spelling
There is no greater solitude than that of the Tracker in the forest, unless perhaps it's that of the wolf in the wilderness.
Here's a map that lists how many U.N. military and U.N. police come from each member country. It may take a second for the maps to load.
http://www.un.org/en/peacekeeping/re...ributors.shtml
I fixed that spelling error for you.
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it's over for us if we aint OVER THERE. :-) Why not just let them kill each other? I mean, is there a big shortage of them, or what?
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