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    This guy may not get the Boss of the Year Award, but why would they take his gun away?


    "Capt. Donald Church is facing discipline for threatening 911 dispatchers that he'd take away their vacation time if they didn't work an additional four hours — while he was armed."


    EXCLUSIVE: NYPD captain faces discipline and could have gun taken away after threatening to take vacation days from 911 dispatchers

    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.1392476
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    It's New York. They're looking for excuses. Sorry, it's just my opinion.
    Church, 47, who was wearing his holstered weapon at the time, gave them five seconds to comply.
    It seems the mindset in that state is the presence of a firearm is a violent threat.

    Going a bit off topic, it also sounds like some folks need to seriously consider how they're running things, and work towards some improvements.

    Back on, though, his threat to take vacation days seems to have been considered more grave, just for being armed (as is his duty on the job, at that).

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    I hope next time the dispatchers want to walk out he lets them, Why should he care now. And it would be really great if one of them 911 dispatchers need a LEO and couldn't get one because no one was there to answer the call. But I'm a rotten bass turd and I have a tendency to say F-it. And be a little cold.
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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    Getting arrested has to be worse than losing vacation days. So does that mean that a member of the NYPD will lose his/her weapon if he/she threatens someone with arrest?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Getting arrested has to be worse than losing vacation days. So does that mean that a member of the NYPD will lose his/her weapon if he/she threatens someone with arrest?
    Sounds like it! thank god I live in a State that isnt run by @#%%^@%.
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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    Most states seem to interpret the presence of a firearm as a violent threat. This is the reason states permissive to concealed carry far outnumber those permissive to open carry.
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    Ken have you read the MA gov's proposed gun bill regarding the commission of a violent misdemeanor while in possession of a weapon? Don't be calling anyone any names while carrying...
    Not passed yet:
    Section 18D. Whoever, while in the commission or attempted commission of a misdemeanor that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the person of another, has in his possession or under his control a firearm, rifle, or shotgun, shall, in addition to the penalty for such offense, be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 10 years, or in the house of correction for not more than 2.5 years, or by a fine of not more than $5000, or by both such fine and imprisonment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canid View Post
    Most states seem to interpret the presence of a firearm as a violent threat. This is the reason states permissive to concealed carry far outnumber those permissive to open carry.
    He is a LEO, why would they think that about him, its part of his job !!!
    I Wonder Who was the first person to look at a cow and say, "I think I'll squeeze these dangly things here, and drink what ever comes out?"

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    I'd just like to live in a world where one standard is sufficient for us all.
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