UFC 83 - St. Pierre vs Serra

[BraggSurvivor]

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[awfoxden]

pierre - most definantly!

[crashdive123]

Gotta go for your cuz Bragg. Matt Serra is a loud mouth idiot.

[beerrunner13]

I hate Matt

[beerrunner13]

I think we have just reached an all time low with this one...coupled with the tacky jokes on the "survival tips" thread, we might finally succeed in rendering this forum into a shapeless dump for anything that crosses our minds.
Survival, is also and maybe primarily about moderation...


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Moderate your mind.

So start a thread about what we need to know oh wise one, or lighten up

[crashdive123]

A wise man once said on this forum that he did not distinguish between survival in the wilderness and survival in an urban setting since many of the skill for either location were applicable to both. A UFC match where the cousin of one of the forum members is a participant being posted in "General" where we are encouraged to discuss anything other than politics and religion may be one of the ultimate survival questions. Here we have two predators that are after the same game (title belt). Both are physically capable of reaching their goal. Both have been stalking their target. What now separates one from the other may largely lie above their shoulders. Survival? Not Survival? I wouldn't care to get into their wilderness to find out if I could survive.

[beerrunner13]

well said crash , hoisted on his own pa tard

[Ole WV Coot]

Not even well armed. We all agree who will probably win but I don't have a pair big enough to tackle the loser. They fight more civilized than I ever did but NO WAY would I even wear those shorts let alone fight in them.

[BraggSurvivor]

Thanks crash.

[BraggSurvivor]

Not even well armed. We all agree who will probably win but I don't have a pair big enough to tackle the loser. They fight more civilized than I ever did but NO WAY would I even wear those shorts let alone fight in them.

I was a western canadian arm wrestling champion (light heavy) back in my late teens and early twenties (hence my bad shoulders). Georges younger brother Alfred is going to junior provincial's next month in Ontario and also started training in mixed martial arts. My uncle says Alfred will be the up and coming star in the coming years as he has worked twice as hard at his age with less injuries compared to George. It will be exciting in the next few years to watch him progress and grow in the sport. He is 13 years old, 5'10" and 185lbs.

Even if my shoulders were good, I wouldnt even think of going head to head with this 13 year old kid. Times are certainly changing Coot.

[crashdive123]

You are correct sir. I will no longer equate well written posts to a persons wisdom, or lack there of.

[BraggSurvivor]

Remy, not an attack on you or anything but if you were so smart, why would you live in LA? Practicing survival skills?

[Ole WV Coot]

I suggest you go to a pawn shop and buy two of their three brass balls and try MMA for yourself. I don't think you or any of us could "survive" (there's that word again) long enough to worry about the ref, rules, rounds. I don't know if you get disqualified for climbing the fence but I sure would try. Maybe there is a tad bit of jealousy concerning the average man and the fighters. I couldn't last one min. on my best day with any fighter so any rules, regs wouldn't mean a damn.

[beerrunner13]

Beerrunner13,

I am not here to tell you what you need to know...nor am i here to entertain you.
I never understood this way of thinking, "well then, why don't you start a thread?"...Well then, if i don't, that's all you have to write about ? If i don't, have you reached your limits ? Your potential ?...please, don't wait up, and don't expect me either to "lighten up", or whatever silly projections you pulled out of your imagination regarding my mood.

Reading those threads...since you want to know...it made me think about the value of moderation, as in moderating our minds...i am not saying you shouldn't be able to post about whatever you want, nor that you somehow need to know more, since i could not possibly know or quantify your knowledge based on mostly...silly posts...yes ?


Crash...
You are funny...I would love to agree with your assessment of this subject...but you are forgetting something. A UFC match, is bound by rules, that survival has nothing to do with (not saying that survival does not have any rules...just saying that it is not the same ones).
Survival has no referee, bells and breaks...popcorn and girls in transparent high heals. No time restrictions, and therefore the scheduling of energy...forces and even glucose intake for that matter.
A UFC match is just an illusion, the illusion of survival...nothing more than a show.
Now, i have really, once again, no qualms about you guys posting about it, as i would have no qualms posting about anything...i was just pointing out what this thread made me think of...moderation.
But hey, you are also entitled to see within it whatever you want, and you can even try to talk me into it...as long as you understand, that we should probably avoid the silly games about "wise one" and "general chat"...
Be smart about it...otherwise i might as well start reading "cosmo" or watch Oprah.

That is a good thing, becuse you have not so far. You were the one who made a judgement on the condition the forum had come to becuse of the topic of the tread ,as you judged my post silly...yes. For some one who drones on and on with the physo babble you are mighty judgementel, all I was saying if you don't like the direction things are going start a thread, the oh wise one referes to your condaending manner. If you have something to say do so in less then 1700 words would be nice if you can manage it. And iI would never stay up late waiting for you do say orr do anything. It seems you are already reading Cosmo and watching Oprah with a good sized helping of Dr. Phil.

Seems like you wuld rather sit back and snip about the ways things are then do anything about it, "how's that workin for ya" I don't think it would work to well in the woods either.

[BraggSurvivor]

Good question Bragg...

Let me make sure i understand your question...you mean, one has to be "insane" to live in LA ? Or living in LA is contradictory to a survival understanding ? Or am i in LA for motivations having to do with survival skills ?

I guess none of the above.
I have lived in many places...in a trailer in the high desert, in the country in south of France, i hitch hiked through out the south west for months, i lived in Paris for years...but none of those places, which all had their benefits and setbacks in terms of survival, were chosen for or by survival standards.
I live in LA because that is where life brought me.
It is not because i live in LA that i practice survival skills...and survival, or the ideas brought on by certain knowledge regarding survival, does not dictate my location.

My location, is of a more abstract matter.
In a way, your question is similar to asking why a soldier would occupy a war zone.
His answer will not be made of a certain survival knowledge, or reflect his intellectual prowess's, or even reflect a certain motivation...no, his answer would be like mine...abstract and full of paradoxes...

Excellent answer remy.

I was in LA a few years ago and got lost, totally out of my element. Your a tougher man than me.

[Alpine_Sapper]

My location, is of a more abstract matter.
In a way, your question is similar to asking why a soldier would occupy a war zone.
His answer will not be made of a certain survival knowledge, or reflect his intellectual prowess's, or even reflect a certain motivation...no, his answer would be like mine...abstract and full of paradoxes...

Um, yeah...I think you give most soldiers to much credit as philosophers. If you ask most of them why they're occupying a warzone, you get something along the lines of "Because this is where they told me to go.". Not to abstract and not to many paradoxes there.

[beerrunner13]

Sapper you know that and I know that but do we really know that and apparently the garasshopper is up to his old tricks, al lot of words and never an answer.

[Ridge Wolf]

The Wolves Within

An old Grandfather said to his grandson, who came to him with anger at a friend who had done him an injustice.... "Let me tell you a story. I too, at times, have felt great hate for those who have taken so much, with no sorrow for what they do. But hate wears you down, and does not hurt your enemy. It's like taking poison and wishing your enemy would die.

"I have struggled with these feelings many times.

"It is as if there are two wolves inside me; one is good and does no harm. He lives in harmony with all around him and does not take offense when no offense was intended. He will only fight when it is right to do so, and in the right way. But...the other wolf... ah! The littlest thing will send him into a fit of temper. He fights everyone, all of the time, for no reason. He cannot think because his anger and hate are so great. It is helpless anger, for his anger will change nothing.

"Sometimes it is hard to live with these two wolves inside me, for both of them try to dominate my spirit."

The boy looked intently into his Grandfather's eyes and asked, "Which one wins, Grandfather?"

The Grandfather smiled and quietly said, "The one I feed."

-- A Native American tale told many times around the Sacred Fire

[beerrunner13]

Point taken

[Sam]

Why do we seem to fall on each others throats? Oh yeah because we are humans. I don't follow sports, so I don't know who will win the UFC thing. I hope Braggs man does ok. I think people wind up where they need to be. And sometimes we wind up where the wife wants to live.