Is this real?

[2dumb2kwit]

Does Cali now have a "micro-stamping" law?

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/all/files/ag...013-BOF-03.pdf

[2dumb2kwit]

I wonder how long it will take, before you can get black market micro-stamping. Think about it....gang bangers could shoot people and leave someone else info. Lazy cops/judges would call a micro-stamped case proof of murder and lock up the wrong people.

[canid]

I'm trying to envision such a system imprinting (legibly and reliably) any encoding of that much data on the case. This will be what, on the face of the firing pin? Moreover, this would not be a difficult to replace part, nor a difficult to remove face. I mean, wouldn't a simple, quick re-facing of the pin obliterate it?

Maybe they're only expecting it to work on the law abiding (assuming removing this feature is even a crime) and the really dumb criminals?

I really hope the problem you expressed doesn't catch on. I agree, that could be a huge mess.

[welderguy]

If it is stamped or etched or what ever on internal parts, what happens when those parts wear out and need replaced.

[canid]

I'm guessing that what this will really do is reduce the handful of handguns approved for California each year to one or two.

[WolfVanZandt]

Ah, but don't you know? Any move toward controlling violence in America, whether it's effective or not, is worth trying (it can't hurt). Somebody in Washington said so.....

[rezmut]

Just another half baked,not thought through idea generated by those currantly in power.

[Seniorman]

Do not ever think that there is no method to their madness. The politicians of Calif. and their far left supporters intend eventually to outlaw all firearms ownership in Calif., at least for all the honest worker peasants.

Inch by inch by inch by inch by inch until they are completely victorious.

S.M.

[hunter63]

I though you were refering to serial numbers micro stamped on each bullet.....rumor I also heard.

Y'all know there will be more and more BS, every which detail some one can think of ..........Right.

[canid]

That would become a very long serial number in very short order. The realistic approach which was (and may still be) in the works was batch codes on the cases, which could at least help narrow down the list of retailers to a manageable number.

[crashdive123]

Micro stamping is not intended to reduce crime or gun violence. It is only intended to drive the cost of firearms up so that fewer are sold. Programs like this truly are a form of blatant discrimination. Many people, often minorities, that are "stuck" in lower income areas that are fraught with higher levels of crime will not be able to afford weapons. This is one of the things the NRA fought at its inception. They fought for the right of Black Americans to be able to own guns. Looks like that fight continues today.

[ElevenBravo]

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[LowKey]

Be sure to police ALL your brass...

[sofasurfer]

The argument that this is too much info to engrave on a tiny part is moot. Nanotechnology. Or even a bar code can supply everything there is to know about you. And it would not be on a cheap firing pin. It would be on the frame of the gun and a few other parts. And they can be placed so that there is no access to the info except by x-ray or other technology.

[canid]

Nobody's arguing that the data can not be engraved. You could probably machine the entirety of my local yellow pages onto the pin with current tehnology if you wanted to. It's an issue of reliably creating a legible impression in the case with a surface which will not wear away rapidly. I have legitimate doubts.

I would love to see the pistol who's firing pin can not be removed, accessed or replaced.

[Batch]

That's what I was thinking. I only know or three parts that can be used to trace a firearm to a casing or bullet. The barrel, firing pin, and the extractor. All of which wear and eventually need replacing. And all of which are user replaceable.

Am I wrong?

[canid]

Not so far as I know.

[Rick]

Here is the latest as of two days ago.

http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/G...#ixzz2TerXKVee

Now where did I put my metal files?

[canid]

The document I read only said they are required to be manufactured with the feature. I haven't [yet] seen anything to indicate that they must retain it after importation or sale.

[finallyME]

I am probably just out of the know. But how can you trace a bullet's origin, if the casing is stamped, and not the bullet? Wouldn't the criminal only need to collect the brass, or use a revolver, then dispose of the brass to eliminate traceability?