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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    You guys can huff and puff all you want, but the reality is that we are not the the country we once were nor are we gonna be allowed (without consequences) to unilaterally and preemptively do what we feel like doing; same way we wouldn't tolerate the same (and didn't in the past) when other countries did it.
    Why is that so hard to comprehend?
    We've known that for a long time.

    It would also open doors for other countries to do the same. Against possibles (Israel, Taiwan, ...).

    Danged if you do or don't and they know it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    You guys can huff and puff all you want, but the reality is that we are not the the country we once were nor are we gonna be allowed (without consequences) to unilaterally and preemptively do what we feel like doing; same way we wouldn't tolerate the same (and didn't in the past) when other countries did it.
    Why is that so hard to comprehend?
    We CAN do it and we CAN get away with it, and I can think of two countries that are begging us to do it. I say that we should be a kinder and gentler nation and give N.K. and Iran EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, and not give them the chance to ram a few up our azz, because that's exactly what they will do, directly or through a proxy, once they have the capability of doing so.
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    well lets see, we knew all about Sadam, and Bin lauden well before 9/11 , guess if we werent such a civilized nation we wouldnt of sacrificed all them lives before we did something about it .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    ...ram a few up our azz, because that's exactly what they will do, directly or through a proxy, once they have the capability of doing so.
    Chertoff on that:" it's not a matter of IF but WHEN".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rebel View Post
    Chertoff on that:" it's not a matter of IF but WHEN".
    +1 Rebel!!!
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    Well if we end up taking out North Korea, I wonder how much of the tax payers money we will spend rebuilding those azz holes country for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildthang View Post
    Well if we end up taking out North Korea, I wonder how much of the tax payers money we will spend rebuilding those azz holes country for them
    I don't know, maybe 35¢. There isn't much there now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    I say that we should be a kinder and gentler nation and give N.K. and Iran EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, and not give them the chance to ram a few up our azz, because that's exactly what they will do, directly or through a proxy, once they have the capability of doing so.
    OK, I'll play along.
    The former Soviet Union had those capabilities, but the assured mutual destruction kept them in line.
    How does that concept not work now?

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    ...furthermore, I seem to remember something about "an armed society is a polite society" argument of everyone being armed to their teeth. Well, this is the same thing on a global scale.

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    Ok question, Seeing that China is a close allies of NK, and dont the US supply a large portion of food to China ? Why cant the US say hey China do something about NK NOW or no more food!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by welderguy View Post
    Ok question, Seeing that China is a close allies of NK, and dont the US supply a large portion of food to China ? Why cant the US say hey China do something about NK NOW or no more food!!
    Because China can then turn around and say, Ok, pay up now! and we'll have us a Mexican standoff. Or would that be a Chinese standoff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    Because China can then turn around and say, Ok, pay up now! and we'll have us a Mexican standoff. Or would that be a Chinese standoff?
    Yeah thats true, forgot they own our butts
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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    OK, I'll play along.
    The former Soviet Union had those capabilities, but the assured mutual destruction kept them in line.
    How does that concept not work now?
    The Soviets were not completely insane, as Un appears to be, nor were they religious fanatics like the Iranian regime. One thing I don't recall is the Soviets threatening to incinerate the United States (or Israel) like these crazies are doing now. The Soviets talked tough, but they weren't threatening us with evaporation BEFORE they had the capacity to do so.

    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    ...furthermore, I seem to remember something about "an armed society is a polite society" argument of everyone being armed to their teeth. Well, this is the same thing on a global scale.
    Do you also remember something about crazy people engaging in mass killings, and how it may have gone differently if just one good guy with a gun had been there?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Do you also remember something about crazy people engaging in mass killings, and how it may have gone differently if just one good guy with a gun had been there?
    WE are the good guys with an even bigger gun. Let's see if y'all's theory works.

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    In all seriousness, I do not think NK has anything that can reach the US, and if he did , we have the capability of shooting it our of the sky before it does any damage. My question is, IF the crazy little bass turd does act on his threats are we going to just brush it off as no harm no foul, or are we going to run a couple hundred scuds ( or what ever is the missle of choice) up his porky pig looking ARSE!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by welderguy View Post
    In all seriousness, I do not think NK has anything that can reach the US, and if he did , we have the capability of shooting it our of the sky before it does any damage. My question is, IF the crazy little bass turd does act on his threats are we going to just brush it off as no harm no foul, or are we going to run a couple hundred scuds ( or what ever is the missle of choice) up his porky pig looking ARSE!!!!!
    Okay, say you walk into an armed robbery in a convenience store. The perp points his revolver at you as you take cover, rapid fires all six shots, and misses. By this time, you have your .45 pointed right at him. No harm, no foul? How 'bout if he drops his empties and pulls out a speed loader?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    WE are the good guys with an even bigger gun. Let's see if y'all's theory works.
    We ARE the good guys. We DO have bigger guns. I just don't have any confidence in the guy calling the shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Okay, say you walk into an armed robbery in a convenience store. The perp points his revolver at you as you take cover, rapid fires all six shots, and misses. By this time, you have your .45 pointed right at him. No harm, no foul? How 'bout if he drops his empties and pulls out a speed loader?
    It's his constitutional right to have it and you supported it vehemantly.
    Now deal with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    It's his constitutional right to have it and you supported it vehemantly.
    Now deal with it.
    I STILL support his right to have it. That wasn't my point at all. I was responding to the "no harm - no foul" question. Let's just say that his speed loader would never make contact with his cylinder.
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