What Happened to [Wilderness] Survival?

[MCBushbaby]

So maybe it's just me, and maybe it's just a rant, but what ever happened to the posts on wilderness survival, skills, and stuff in General Survival Discussion? I keep seeing these "eotwawki" and economic depression threads and I keep asking myself "why are people posting this on a wilderness forum and not 'republicansgonecrazy' forums?" I don't think new people who are looking for a wilderness survival discussion forum will be very pleased to find at least half the new articles are being written on urban survival and post-depression "what if" scenarios. Seems like we could be headed for a 'Hal Turner' kind of site. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

[BraggSurvivor]

Your right mitch, I wont post anymore urbal survival stuff until you catch up posting about rubbing two sticks together.

[beerrunner13]

Soory Mitch it was my understanding anyone could start a thread on anything they wanted to a point. Why don't you start one on what you want to talk about? BTW even I think Turner is a bit over the top

[MCBushbaby]

I'm not saying noone can post about anything survival related, I'm just wondering what it has to do with wilderness survival. Quick "shtf forums" google search brought me here and after glancing over some of the topics... well... they are pretty much the same as on this forum. Grain shortages, precious metals, bug out pack setups, etc. But again, my opinion. Sorry I brought it up

[Alpine_Sapper]

So maybe it's just me, and maybe it's just a rant, but what ever happened to the posts on wilderness survival, skills, and stuff in General Survival Discussion? I keep seeing these "eotwawki" and economic depression threads and I keep asking myself "why are people posting this on a wilderness forum and not 'republicansgonecrazy' forums?" I don't think new people who are looking for a wilderness survival discussion forum will be very pleased to find at least half the new articles are being written on urban survival and post-depression "what if" scenarios. Seems like we could be headed for a 'Hal Turner' kind of site. I dunno, maybe it's just me.

I'm pretty sure the majority of the topics have been covered. There's only so much you can say about survival kits, fire starting, water purification...I mean, the topics are not rocket science. Eventually the thread topics start to shift or the forum dies and becomes a static reference page. If you would like to discuss something, post a topic.

I agree that the economic depression and eotwawki posts are depressing and anxiety inducing to an extent. But would you think about it, and possibly prepare for the eventuality if they weren't there?

[nell67]

I think most of us here could care less whether the economy fails or not,and we came to learn and share our wilderness survival skills with others,NOT to learn about the economy,maybe Chris could start another forum just for those who have all that money can gloat amongst yourselves about what everyone else is going to do when the bottom drops out of the market.

MOST of us dont care!!!! All these economic posts are the reason most on here have stopped posting all together,and some who have been here longer than you guys have stopped coming onto the forum altogether.

mitch is one of the few on here who has kept it true to the forum and keeps on posting what he is doing as far as learning new skills,mitch,I applaude you,keep it up and dont let it get to you.

Truth is I have never had the kind of money some of you brag about having,and never will,will I notice if the market crashes,not at all,seriously,I hope it does so everyone will finally stop posting about it.

[BraggSurvivor]

I'm not saying noone can post about anything survival related, I'm just wondering what it has to do with wilderness survival. Quick "shtf forums" google search brought me here and after glancing over some of the topics... well... they are pretty much the same as on this forum. Grain shortages, precious metals, bug out pack setups, etc. But again, my opinion. Sorry I brought it up

You have the right to bring it up as I think your opinion is certainly valid. I'm sure there are alot of members and potential here feel the same way you do.

In my opinion it's all relative to survival. Rick and I are at opposite ends of the spectrum but at the same time have alot of things in common. We certainly balance each other out thats for sure. (I really enjoy his mellow and thoughtful takes on most topics pertaining to SHTF posts)

I for the most part only read posts that interest me. Making a spear does not turn my crank and I dont open them up. Its that simple.

[BraggSurvivor]

AS,I think most of us here have been thinking about it weather the economy fails or not,and THAT is why WE came here in the first place to learn and share our WILDERNESS survival skills with others,NOT to learn about the economy,maybe Chris aould start another forum just for those who have all that money can gloat amongst yourselves about what everyone elase is going to do when the bottom drops out of the market.

MOST OF US DON'T CARE!!!! All these economic posts are THE reason most on here have stopped posting all together,and some who have been here much longer than you guys have stopped coming onto the forum altogether.

mitch is one of the few on here who has kept it true to the forum and keeps on posting what he is doing as far as learning new skills,mitch,I applaude you,keep it up and dont let the bs get to you.

Truth is I have never had the kind of money some of you brag about having,and never will,will I notice if the market crashes,not at all,seriously,I hope it does so everyone will finally stop posting about it.

Current events can be posted and can be discussed by adults who can disagree and still remain friends.
Again there are some of us who believe economic preparation is essential to "wilderness survival". I'm sorry you feel the way you do.

[nell67]

Bragg,I dont regret my feelings at all,and truth be told there are many others here feeling the same way.

[beerrunner13]

Whoa sounds like some one has a little envy or denial thing going on. I for one am not rich but have enjoyed the posts on the economic issues we all face to be junped on by people who have been here longer, or are "pureists; is beyond belief when most of thier posts are LOL or something so off topic from what the thread it makes you say huh?

As someone better at expressing themselves has said I am pretty sure I can put a BOB together,start a fire or make a spear with out devoteing 3 pages to it.

As it seems like some folks here would rather argue and resist the facts of life I will leave you folks to your inane disscusions on how to make a spear out of music wire or which Rambo knife is better or maybe how to make nitro out of household materials. To some of the folks here if you are not of the crew you do not rate an opinion even though they do not start threads just hijack them so I am out of here.

To those who see the world for waht it is and try to bring a little common sense and enlightenment to the masses I applaud you, but I am tired of the cryig and fighting here best of luck to all of you

[BraggSurvivor]

My wife has a favorite saying that she has often used on me "Suck it up, buttercup"

From your earlier post you stated: "and some who have been here much longer than you guys have stopped coming onto the forum altogether"

So, thats their problem. I also didnt know you had to be here for 16+ months before you could feel welcome posting pertinent information.

Again, I'm sorry you feel the way you do. Dont read it nell.

[MCBushbaby]

I agree you can only talk about wilderness survival for so long before it begins to repeat. However while talking has diminishing returns, actually going out and practicing what you preach, or listen to, gives many more threads relevant to the forum's subject matter. One can talk about how to start a primitive fire and go over all the specs and tutorials they've read online or in some book, but when you go out and try it yourself you can come back to the forums with some much-needed personal experience. For example, in my thread on making a wax stove, I could simply copy down a bunch of steps and leave it at that... people would respond "nice find" or "I'll try this sometime" and the thread will die. However since I actually tried it, I found that the cardboard coil unravels in the wax, so I needed to tie it with bailing wire. Likewise I found the wax slumps when cooled. Another thing you wouldn't know unless you try it personally and then post your findings.

I'd also like to point out in the General Chat section where it says "Talk about anything except politics & religion." Does economic depression and the like not constitute a field of politics? Should this message be posted under every forum category?

[BraggSurvivor]

Whoa sounds like some one has a little envy or denial thing going on. I for one am not rich but have enjoyed the posts on the economic issues we all face to be junped on by people who have been here longer, or are "pureists; is beyond belief when most of thier posts are LOL or something so off topic from what the thread it makes you say huh?

As someone better at expressing themselves has said I am pretty sure I can put a BOB together,start a fire or make a spear with out devoteing 3 pages to it.

As it seems like some folks here would rather argue and resist the facts of life I will leave you folks to your inane disscusions on how to make a spear out of music wire or which Rambo knife is better or maybe how to make nitro out of household materials. To some of the folks here if you are not of the crew you do not rate an opinion even though they do not start threads just hijack them so I am out of here.

To those who see the world for waht it is and try to bring a little common sense and enlightenment to the masses I applaud you, but I am tired of the cryig and fighting here best of luck to all of you

Aw crap beerrunner, hang in there bro.

[nell67]

Yea,please dont leave because of me,that was not my intentions at all,I was just stating MY opinion on mitch's post,and I am not jealous,nor a pureist at all,I just happen to believe the forum is a wilderness survival forum,and not related to money in any shape nor form.

[Rick]

Why is everyone getting their nickers in a twist? Each of the forum sections have information specific to that section and what should be posted there. For example:

General Emergency Preparedness is "Any general topic related to fortifying the homestead for disaster survival, or bugging out in the wake of a catastrophe."

Generall Chat is "Talk about anything except politics & religion."

There is room on the forum for both audiences in my opinion. I disagree with the view that there are only so many ways to make fire. There are a lot of topics we have not discussed in wilderness survival and I outlined them in a post a few days ago. I'm not going to rehash that. But choose the forum you are interested in and go with it.'

Beerrunner, I hate to see you go. You've offered some good posts and I hope you hang around and argue with me some. I don't have many that want to do that.....

[crashdive123]

I gotta say - there is a wealth of information on these forums for me. One of my longer range plans will be taking place in Wyoming or Montanna, but that is several years away. I enjoy reading about others views on a multitude of topics. Some of the stuff is really great, some makes me laugh, and some makes me shake my head in disbelief. I hope that everybody hangs in there because I learn something from everybody - even those I disagree with.

[FVR]

I just don't post on these kinds of threads, basically because I'm a Republican. Figure that that would piss alot of people off. I don't hug trees, don't breath deep, I believe one should take responsibility for their actions.

If you come up short, guess what, you came up short. Your problem.

I tire of the whining and complaining about gas prices, food prices, and such.

Lately, I've been side tracked. Family matters take priority. I check the posts, but not posting much. Come late spring, I will be getting into the woods, maybe as soon as next weekend. Turkey season is in, good reason to take to the woods and try to stick a hog with primitive bow and arrow.

As far as investment talk, this is a public forum. World access, really don't want to give out info.

Funny, ya won't post your real names or pics, but you will post about how much investments you have and in what. Duhhhh..........like your address can't be found out by a good hacker.LOL.

Ahhh, just ramblings from a Jarhead.

[Sourdough]

Whoa sounds like some one has a little envy or denial thing going on. I for one am not rich but have enjoyed the posts on the economic issues we all face to be junped on by people who have been here longer, or are "pureists; is beyond belief when most of thier posts are LOL or something so off topic from what the thread it makes you say huh?

As someone better at expressing themselves has said I am pretty sure I can put a BOB together,start a fire or make a spear with out devoteing 3 pages to it.

As it seems like some folks here would rather argue and resist the facts of life I will leave you folks to your inane disscusions on how to make a spear out of music wire or which Rambo knife is better or maybe how to make nitro out of household materials. To some of the folks here if you are not of the crew you do not rate an opinion even though they do not start threads just hijack them so I am out of here.

To those who see the world for waht it is and try to bring a little common sense and enlightenment to the masses I applaud you, but I am tired of the cryig and fighting here best of luck to all of you

Beerrunner 13, I also am out of here. I came to help, I came to teach. I came to share some of the painfully lessons I have learned in 38 years in the Alaska Wilderness, I'll die of old age soon. What I have learned can die with me. I shared what I have learned from thousands of close Brown Bear encounters, no one cared. No one asked what does it mean to "PUSH" a Brown Bear, they just don't care. So I went back and deleted the Brown Bear information. Like you say they won't start a thread, but they sure wine and cry about the one's I start. So the days are long, I live in the wilderness, I'll go hike 5 to 8 per day. And soon I'll start building the Barn. I don't think I'll be missed. And I'll not let the door hit me in the arse on the way out. Bye, Bye

[Stony]

where is the beef here?

as for me, i don't read any and every post, just the ones that have a catching headline.

this forum is not as bad as others, so why start arguing over nothing?

there are always people that think the eat wisdom with a (silver) spoon.

i have met a few in my days and all fall shaort when the rubber meets the road.
be it out in the bush or on the water.

cry-baby wants to stire up trouble? just ignore her/him.

[Canadian-guerilla]

Current events can be posted and can be discussed by adults who can disagree and still remain friends.
Again there are some of us who believe economic preparation is essential to "wilderness survival".

+1

i might stop in here once a week now
basically, we're just asking each other for thoughts and opinions
and to just disregard current events going on right now in the world
just because this is supposed to be " wilderness-survival " only ?


someone start another knife thread . . .