Primitive/Survival living

**Fog_Harbor** · 08-01-2007, 08:05 PM

Actually, there's enough land in the state of Texas alone to give every man, woman and child on the planet a 2/3rds acre plot of land.

A gun in hand is much better than ten on the other end of the phone line.

**owl_girl** · 08-01-2007, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by Fog_Harbor

Actually, there's enough land in the state of Texas alone to give every man, woman and child on the planet a 2/3rds acre plot of land.

A gun in hand is much better than ten on the other end of the phone line.

I agree, I don’t think we’re over populated, maybe a bit inefficient, but there’s a difference. Although I'd like to see where you got those statistics.

**HOP** · 08-07-2007, 08:32 AM

You might consider a long canoe trip stopping and seting up camp then hunt and fish within the law, if planed right this could fit your wants very well. I have canoe camped a lot in the past and there is a lot god times that could be taken to a primative level. Just plan well.

**go2ndAmend** · 03-11-2008, 01:57 AM

Any National Forest in the Western U.S. would be a good choice, especially in winter if you have the skills. Marble Mountains are great. I try and take a solo winter excursion every year. Just me, my pack, and skis. I've never come across another sole once I've left the road. Start slowly, maybe a weekend outing with a friend and build your skills and confidence over time. The best things in life are free!

**tunick001** · 03-18-2008, 09:59 PM

Try the Nantahala National Forest in western North Carolina

**Stony** · 03-20-2008, 08:18 PM

well, if you are dumb enough to enlist then don't complain after the fact.

**crashdive123** · 03-20-2008, 09:22 PM

Stony - you probably don't want to travel down that path.

**canid** · 03-20-2008, 09:47 PM

the biggest problem as i see it is not the general overpopulation, but our trend towards super-concentrated pockets of extreme overpopulation [the urbanization trend]. if every household on earth where willing to live in a rural, mostly forrested environment, no close than 1/8 mile apart, we could probably still have more wild places, of greater scale and still maintain a lower consumption. then again, if everybody gardened and nobody drove this would probably still be eden. here's to wishing.

**Alpine_Sapper** · 03-21-2008, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by canid

the biggest problem as i see it is not the general overpopulation, but our trend towards super-concentrated pockets of extreme overpopulation [the urbanization trend]. if every household on earth where willing to live in a rural, mostly forrested environment, no close than 1/8 mile apart, we could probably still have more wild places, of greater scale and still maintain a lower consumption. then again, if everybody gardened and nobody drove this would probably still be eden. here's to wishing.

*GASP*
You mean no starbucks? No McDonald's? No crowded apartment complexes with tejano blaring all night long? eeeeeek!

/falls over from heart attack.

**Rick** · 03-21-2008, 09:21 AM

Earth has approximately 6,671,226,000 human inhabitants as of July 2007. Projections indicate that the world's human population will reach seven billion in 2013 and 9.2 billion in 2050. Most of the growth is expected to take place in developing nations. Human population density varies widely around the world, but a majority live in Asia. By 2020, 60% of the world's population is expected to be living in urban, rather than rural, areas.

It is estimated that only one eighth of the surface of the Earth is suitable for humans to live on—three-quarters is covered by oceans, and half of the land area is either desert (14%), high mountains (27%), or other less suitable terrain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth#Human_geography

Living on that barge just might offer some solitude.

**Alpine_Sapper** · 03-21-2008, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by crashdive123

Stony - you probably don't want to travel down that path.

Suuuuuure he does...I've set out the welcome mine...er, mat.

**explodingearth** · 04-06-2008, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by albanian-american

if u join the special forces u will learn evasion techniques and survival skills, no one will find u, not even those silly park rangers, special forces is serious business

i saw a show about how a big group of rangers got owned on a hill by a defensive camp of middle easterners WAY TO GO RECON TEAM... sad really

**Alpine_Sapper** · 04-07-2008, 05:59 AM

Originally Posted by explodingearth

i saw a show about how a big group of rangers got owned on a hill by a defensive camp of middle easterners WAY TO GO RECON TEAM... sad really

Not that this really has to do with Primitive Living, but, a well fortified entrenched defensive position that's well provisioned can hold out almost indefinitely against armies 10 times it's size. Usually until supplies run out, unless they can somehow re-supply. History has proven this time and time again. If the Rangers couldn't get an air strike, or for some reason it was ineffective, or course their going to get owned. They may eventually take the position, but the cost is usually not worth the gain. Go rent "Hamburger Hill" if you don't believe me.