The magic letter "S."

[Winter]

Whether urine can or cannot be used is missing the point.

You should be able to find some water, somewhere, if you have a suitable skillset. If you are drinking piss, you have bigger problems.

One of my survival instructors said it best;" Do not believe anything I've said till I show you it can be done."

Anybody who wants to can drink their own piss and write a review. That would be educational and inspiring.

Inspiring in a way that makes a person want to learn more about water procurement.

[Sarge47]

Whether urine can or cannot be used is missing the point.

You should be able to find some water, somewhere, if you have a suitable skillset. If you are drinking piss, you have bigger problems.

One of my survival instructors said it best;" Do not believe anything I've said till I show you it can be done."

Anybody who wants to can drink their own piss and write a review. That would be educational and inspiring.

Inspiring in a way that makes a person want to learn more about water procurement.

Agreed! Great post! Rep sent!

[MichMetal]

MichMetal,

I am thinking about re-naming you Quixote because of your demonstrated propensity for tilting at windmills...

While there are SOME (extrmely limited) circumstances where it is relatively safe to drink one's own urine, the generally-accepted rule is "DON'T!" That's what the experts, and several people on this Board, have told you. That's what I'm telling you.

You are, as always, free to do as you wish.

-- Nighteyes

Sorry but my handle is MichMetal and if you want me to read what you say, you'll refer to me as that or something similar, MM, Mich, whatever. In terms of this thread everyone says "never drink your urine" not "only in some circumstances" they said never. YOu know what I find interesting? This site is apparently based a lot off the Army survival manual, and yet Sarge47
doesn't see Mykel Hawke, who's a retired U.S. Army Special Forces officer, as "any kind of a survival expert". Really? are you ex special forces? Of course not, many aren't, only a select few are or were,the elite. And yet he's not seen as an expert...see this is the issue I have, i hear a lot of talk from you guys about how you're experts but that's all I see...Mike, and others are proven experts with tons of accolades doing the opposite of what you guys claim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykel_Hawke
He's written 4 books, has been on various tv shows and runs a combat medical school. Yeah i'm going to think you guys are more experience/skilled then this guy because you say you are? right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls
Bear Grylls is ALSO ex United Kingdom Special Forces and also been on various tv shows

[Sarge47]

Sorry but my handle is MichMetal and if you want me to read what you say, you'll refer to me as that or something similar, MM, Mich, whatever. In terms of this thread everyone says "never drink your urine" not "only in some circumstances" they said never. YOu know what I find interesting? This site is apparently based a lot off the Army survival manual, and yet Sarge47
doesn't see Mykel Hawke, who's a retired U.S. Army Special Forces officer, as "any kind of a survival expert". Really? are you ex special forces? Of course not, many aren't, only a select few are or were,the elite. And yet he's not seen as an expert...see this is the issue I have, i hear a lot of talk from you guys about how you're experts but that's all I see...Mike, and others are proven experts with tons of accolades doing the opposite of what you guys claim.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mykel_Hawke
He's written 4 books, has been on various tv shows and runs a combat medical school. Yeah i'm going to think you guys are more experience/skilled then this guy because you say you are? right...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Grylls
Bear Grylls is ALSO ex United Kingdom Special Forces and also been on various tv shows

If Bear is ex-SAS why does he disagree with the SAS survival manual? If Mykel Hawke is a survival expert because of his Special Forces training then why does he go against the US Army Survival Manual? Where did you hear that we are all experts? Thank you for considering me one, but I'm not. I just study hard from the real experts, such as:

Cody Lundin
Dr. Ron Hood(who was also ex-military BTW)
Mors Kochanski
The Boy Scouts of America
John "Lofty" Wiseman

Answer my questions if you can. I'll tell you why, IMO, it's that big fat paycheck they get for doing what the producers ask. Survival schools are big money. I looked over Hawke's web-site and wouldn't consider the man any kind of expert, just a business man. I put him right alongside Army Ranger Dick...er...uh...I mean Rick! However believe them if you will and not us, but if that's what you believe, and not us, then why are you still here?

[Sarge47]

...of beating my head against the wall. Mitch, I am through answering your posts. Daniel Nighteyes may consider you Don Quixote but I really don't want him thinking that of me. I'll answer anybody else on here, but since you have stated that you don't respect my opinion then it serves no purpose for me to continue any sort of discussion with you. Why should I waste my time when you have made it obvious that you are going to believe whatever you want despite anything that I respond with? Perhaps if I was on TV....

[MichMetal]

...of beating my head against the wall. Mitch, I am through answering your posts. Daniel Nighteyes may consider you Don Quixote but I really don't want him thinking that of me. I'll answer anybody else on here, but since you have stated that you don't respect my opinion then it serves no purpose for me to continue any sort of discussion with you. Why should I waste my time when you have made it obvious that you are going to believe whatever you want despite anything that I respond with? Perhaps if I was on TV....

My goal is knowledge, as much as I can possibly get out of here and other places, but with that said the internet is a tricky place and one can't simply take everything presented as fact. There's a word for that actually and I believe it's "gullible" heh. In terms of this topic there's clearly a disagreement in what's useful or not useful so I have to go off each sides argument and decide for myself. If that upsets you to the point you aren't going to continue any sort of discussion with me, well that's your choice.

[Rick]

You know, I've tried to be nice to you. The way you treated Crash you would have been banned on most other boards. You simply don't get to talk to moderators like that. Here, it's a little different. Crash is a smart, knowledgeable, well respected, affable guy and you thoroughly trashed him. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. In fact, most of what you post has been wrong. Not one person has come to your rescue in any post. Not one. Everyone has told you that you are wrong and yet you insist you are correct. You should really, really think about that. Personally, I think you like to hear your gums flap.

Aurelias or someone gave you the best advice you've received so far. Sit down, shut up and listen. In any case, you are a poor student if learning was your objective for being here. I'm beginning to think you are more likely a troll. In any case, this is my last post to you. You've worn through my good natured veneer.

[MichMetal]

You know, I've tried to be nice to you. The way you treated Crash you would have been banned on most other boards. You simply don't get to talk to moderators like that. Here, it's a little different. Crash is a smart, knowledgeable, well respected, affable guy and you thoroughly trashed him. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. In fact, most of what you post has been wrong. Not one person has come to your rescue in any post. Not one. Everyone has told you that you are wrong and yet you insist you are correct. You should really, really think about that. Personally, I think you like to hear your gums flap.

Aurelias or someone gave you the best advice you've received so far. Sit down, shut up and listen. In any case, you are a poor student if learning was your objective for being here. I'm beginning to think you are more likely a troll. In any case, this is my last post to you. You've worn through my good natured veneer.

Here's some advice to you, stop insulting new members? I'm tired of you and others insulting me personally not to mention telling me to shutup etc...look at just about any threads i've been a part of, personal attacks left and right, and i've tolerated them when I shouldn't have. Crash is whining because I don't take his opinion as fact and I think he needs to get over it, and you need to learn how to be fair and balanced. I don't care if he's a moderator or not, you both need to work on your people skills IMHO. BTW sarge self admittedly isn't even an expert yet i'm suppose to listen to him over real life experts? No logic in that.

[Rick]

Don't say I didn't warn ya. Now you don't have to worry about being insulted.

[crashdive123]

Geez - I respond to him about a dozen times trying to be helpful and make one post calling him a spoiled child (which apparently is fact and not opinion based on these outburst of righteous indignation). If that is whining, I guess that must be the new definition. Trust me kid - there is nothing to get over.

Rick, based on his attitude I suspect you were correct about him being a troll. Either way - he was certainly given the opportunity to stay and learn - he chose differently.

[Sarge47]

Actually it was me who told him to sit down, shut up, and listen. Dude was a troll that was trying to play us. Say bye-bye Mitchie!

[hunter63]

Took y'all a while to figure it out, but I guess the urge to set things right seem to overwhelm what is happening right before our eyes.

Oh well........carry on.

[Sarge47]

Took y'all a while to figure it out, but I guess the urge to set things right seem to overwhelm what is happening right before our eyes.

Oh well........carry on.

Yeah, poor "Mitchie the Kid!" Probably sittin' in front of his computer drowning his sorrows in a warm cup of piss! Oh well, maybe he'll find somebody who truly cares...I hear Bear Grylls is looking for work.

[crashdive123]

Took y'all a while to figure it out, but I guess the urge to set things right seem to overwhelm what is happening right before our eyes.

Oh well........carry on.

I think he was pegged pretty early on. For me - the desire is to have as many people participate as possible. They learn - I learn. In an effort to excuse behavior that is not accustomed to interacting with strangers on the internet in a civil manner I believe he was given several opportunities to "get it". As I said......he chose differently.

[RangerXanatos]

I guess he wasn't affected by Rainbow Dash's Sonic Rainboom? I figured early on he was just trolling with us. 25 and a $4 knife is your first knife? Has he never been to a yardsale or much less a kitchen?

[hunter63]

........and bought it off the interweb......hasn't heard of Gander Mountain, or Cabelas?...of course there are times when I wish i hadn't either....but I digress.

Sad, as new ideas do show up from time to time with new people,...I thinking we were the diversion/entertainment....say bye.

[JPGreco]

aww, I'm too late with the best quote ever about drinking pee...

"Is it necessary to drink my own urine? No, but its sterile and I like the taste."

[randyt]

if it's ok to consume water eliminated by the body, is it ok to consume solid waste eliminated by the body?

[hunter63]

Sign above urinal in saloon......
"We don't sell beer here, we just rent it"

[crashdive123]

Sign above urinal in saloon......
"We don't sell beer here, we just rent it"

And.....

Don't eat the giant breath mints.