what do you beleive

[Ridge Wolf]

tsk, tsk, tsk...

Everybody that is either prejudiced, ignorant (I do not mean stupid, there is a difference), should live a few years with a handicap... like me.. 20 years now.. and you think it is pleasant to have to ask people to repeat themselves most of the time? Oh yeah, I have hearing aids... disabled vet.. but hearing aids don't pick up everything... and you still have to ask for repetiition. So handicapped, special needs is the same to varying degrees obviously. The world is full of insensitive people.. I have grown used to that.. and their derogatory nicknames and whispers..

I have said elsewhere that I am a loner.. a hearing loss makes a person a loner btw. The same goes for special needs people if they let it happen. don't ever shut out a handicapped person.. it hurts. Thanks for reading the rant..

[Ridge Wolf]

having a chat with the wife this morning talking about survival and shtf stuff we come to the topic of the the idea that the world will end dec 21 2012.my wife says she has had a vision for years that she would not live past 42 which is close to the 2012 mark. the thing i love about my wife is she understands being prepared. my ex would say i was paranoid prepared but paranoid not supportive whereas the mrs wants the bunker built and supplies stocked up. so the question was theoreticly how did we see the world ending would it be bird flue, the rapture, nukes, mass extiction? does everyone go at once or is it large amounts dead but still 20 percent survive. wife knows i want to survive out of curiosity, how well would i do in this situation wife wants to be the first to go she hates stress and confrontation, but i gotta know need to test myself and see what happens so....

what about you



what do you beleive?

I think that 2012 is the end of the mayan calendar. I listen to Coast to Coast AM at night and they sometimes talk about that. I have heard everything from the Rapture of Christians to Armagedden to space aliens visiting us on the White House lawn happening on that date.

Personally, I think the rapture is the most likely to happen but There have been other sects of the Christian world that have believed the rapture was to happen on a certain date... All went up on their rooftops to wait for it.. and it didn't happen.. so, I am reserving public judgement on that angle.. Who knows what is going to happen? We'll just have to wait and see.. won't be too long though.. Complacency won't set in too much I would think..

That is the year my drivers license expires... but at the first part of the year.. Hmm, what a coincidence.

[Smok]

There will be no light switch going on or off on 2012 as some think witch will give Rick more water for he's hose , but instead it will be a very slow and quite thing , if you look with eyes that see it has all ready started . Wormwood has all ready happened !! Look it up I cannot remember what number seal that was but that seal has been broken and we are now in a another part of the end times . because others on here know that all is will and nothing can happen . I am tired of being laugh at you can laugh with me all you want but not at me

[Beo]

Although the word wormwood appears several times in the Old Testament, translated from the Hebrew term לענה (la'anah), e.g., Deuteronomy 29:18 and Jeremiah 9:15, its only clear reference as a named entity occurs in the New Testament book of Revelation: "And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter." (Revelation 8:10, 11 - KJV)

[canid]

hrm. i would think most people would have valued wormwood, rather than feared it... it's a useful herb, absinthe aside even.

[Smok]

Chernobyl when translated means Wormwood

[canid]

well it did 'light up' and then poison the waters... sounds biblical to me. insane theories 1, regular theories a billion...

[Rick]

Not to get off on Religion.... Smok...I would never laugh AT you. Never. I value every person's opinion no matter how different they are from my own. Everyone is my teacher. As for the other thing, I read in a book, somewhere, can't discuss religion but I do remember the chapter...Mathew 24:36.

[Smok]

I was not talking religion I just used the bible as a reference . never said you laughed at me or anyone Rick I like all of you way too much to be upset about something like that but there are times when some of us see bad things happening and you do get a little ...how to say this LOUD .It is good that you have an up beet out look just do not forget bad things can and do happen

[Rick]

Hey Ridge - On your hearing loss. I have the same problem. Too many loud 8 tracks (what?), too much noise at work without ear protection, to much...who knows. But I can't hear in the same range as a woman's voice (hey, I don't make this stuff up, I just accept the gift). Anyway, I can't hear a smoke alarm so I thought I would post this for anyone else who might have a similar problem. It's called the Signal One Vocal Smoke Alarm and it was designed to wake up children faster than conventional smoke alarms (it does that by the way). It also is the only smoke alarm I can hear. I've changed all my smoke alarms in the house to the Signal One alarm. It has both the conventional tone and a voice alarm.

http://www.signalonesafety.com/products.aspx

[Rick]

Smok - I was just responding to your last sentence in post 67. I apologize if I come across loud. I don't mean to or try to force anyone to think the way I do. I do try to understand why people think the way they do and try to understand why folks think the world is going to come to an end for one reason or another.

I do admit to some consternation when folks say something like the "government". To me, that's a cheap and easy way to blame someone else. I'd be much more impressed if they told me who in the government and why. For example, one might say, "I think the CIA wants to monitor everyone's phone conversations to determine if we are paying our taxes." At least I can understand what their beliefs are and their reasoning behind those beliefs.

If someone says the government monitors everyone's phone calls, it sort of spins it like some whacked conspiracy theorist.

[canid]

Some say the world will end in fire,
Some say in ice.
From what I've tasted of desire
I hold with those who favor fire.
But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
-R. Frost.

[Ridge Wolf]

Hey Ridge - On your hearing loss. I have the same problem. Too many loud 8 tracks (what?), too much noise at work without ear protection, to much...who knows. But I can't hear in the same range as a woman's voice (hey, I don't make this stuff up, I just accept the gift). Anyway, I can't hear a smoke alarm so I thought I would post this for anyone else who might have a similar problem. It's called the Signal One Vocal Smoke Alarm and it was designed to wake up children faster than conventional smoke alarms (it does that by the way). It also is the only smoke alarm I can hear. I've changed all my smoke alarms in the house to the Signal One alarm. It has both the conventional tone and a voice alarm.

http://www.signalonesafety.com/products.aspx

That is excellent... I don't have a problem with smoke alarms though.. I hear them just fine. It is alarm clocks that I don't hear.. even the cell phone type. I wonder if that technology can be put into an alarm clock? That would be a really good market for that device. I know that the deaf community has alarm clocks that flash a light etc.. but you end up paying a small fortune for those. I may write to this company about their product. Thanks..

[Rick]

Ridge - You bet they do. Here's a link to several:

http://www.nextag.com/talking-alarm-clock/search-html

P.S. - I like the Mickey Mouse one.

[Ridge Wolf]

Ridge - You bet they do. Here's a link to several:

http://www.nextag.com/talking-alarm-clock/search-html

P.S. - I like the Mickey Mouse one.

Hmmm, thanks.. wifey just confessed that she has been looking for these for a year... and hasn't found any. But, she hadn't been looking on the internet.. I just said.. well?? duh!!! We have a deaf school here and she was going on what they had recommended ... for over a hundred dollars.. to which I responded "drink another beer!".. so these we can get a handle on.. I have my choice apparently from dinosaurs.. to mickey mouse to New York City.. and a lot more... Let's see... eeny meeny miny moe... But seriously, Thanks.. What I get has to be loud enough though.. I'll check them out.

[Smok]

Rick it is not our goverment that will be chipping us and keepping tracking

[canid]

you don't mean... not Mothers Against Drunk Driving...

[Rick]

Who then, Smok?

[Smok]

I wish I new . I look at the bible as the future pre written but we do not know how we will get there . everyone here says they will not take the number OK so something has to happen in a BIG way to change that but what and how ...So I thank about it ....just a game , thought I would put it out for your revue , But it's not really a game is it ?? I wash I could tale you how it would go drown but I am not any good it this. I do not think it will be the good old USA doing it though ...So that means something has to happen to the US and to us but what ??? Than there will have to a BIG up side drown turmoil this is when the anti Christ steps in and get it all working again ...see you got me to say it but as lone as things are working we are safe will as self as we can be I sorry I did not mean to go here but you did ask

[Ridge Wolf]

I wish I new . I look at the bible as the future pre written but we do not know how we will get there . everyone here says they will not take the number OK so something has to happen in a BIG way to change that but what and how ...So I thank about it ....just a game , thought I would put it out for your revue , But it's not really a game is it ?? I wash I could tale you how it would go drown but I am not any good it this. I do not think it will be the good old USA doing it though ...So that means something has to happen to the US and to us but what ??? Than there will have to a BIG up side drown turmoil this is when the anti Christ steps in and get it all working again ...see you got me to say it but as lone as things are working we are safe will as self as we can be I sorry I did not mean to go here but you did ask

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