Japan Info

**kyratshooter** · 03-16-2011, 10:26 AM

Rick, I'll bet you think they will have air-conditioning in the seventh level of hell and there is a silver lining behind the cloud that just brought the F4 tornado down your street!

Radiation exposure is not like going on a diet. You can not overdo it, then back off on your intake to make up the difference. What it goes "back down too" is totally irrelevant compared to what you were just exposed too.

This is probably now a moot point due to the continued problems at the plants. They have now pulled all the workers out, widened the safty zone and basically given up on saving the containment vessels.

We have 23 of these plants in the U.S. at 16 locations. Several on the east coast and one near Chicago.

They were declared unsafe in the 70s and recommended to be taken off line due to the weak containment vessels.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/fukush...ry?id=13141287

**Justin Case** · 03-16-2011, 10:31 AM

On GMA this morning that Japanese physicist (missed his name but you all know him see pic)says we are looking at an event equal to "Several Chernobyls" and the Air Force needs to do the same thing with all these reactors,,, seal them in concrete.

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**Canadian-guerilla** · 03-16-2011, 10:36 AM

someone let me know when i can run outside in my camo loincloth and yell

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE !!!!

**Alaskan Survivalist** · 03-16-2011, 10:51 AM

I bet there are some good deals on beach front property in Japan now for smart people with the keen business sense I see on this forum.

**Justin Case** · 03-16-2011, 10:57 AM

Chernobyl 25 Years Later Becomes Japan’s Lesson on Meltdown
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-meltdown.html

**Rick** · 03-16-2011, 11:23 AM

You know, AS, your attitude is actually atrocious with anyone that disagrees with you. The level of paranoia I see on this forum is pretty sad.

KY - I agree with your assessment on radiation. The thing is no one, except possibly the workers on site, have been exposed to high levels of radiation. If radiation levels increase and then fall and no one is exposed what's the panic? I don't panic over speculation, innuendo and unknowns. I don't blame the government for some conspiracy and don't blame "them" for any and all failings that saunter along.

Justin - With the workers removed and no other options on the horizon, a sarcophagus for each reactor may be the only answer. It's pretty sad, really. The physicist you have pictured is Dr. Kaku. He's American by the way. I have read a lot of his work and watched a lot of his presentations. I have a lot of respect for him. If he says bury them then I have to agree.

**MidWestMat** · 03-16-2011, 11:32 AM

You know the Japs already got nuked twice, I dont think a little fallout is going to be the end of the world. For them or anyone else. And if some people get sick and die from the radiation, well God be with them. But people get sick and die from our toxic environment all the time....

So for my part, and my advice for others is the same..Take a deep breath, utter a prayer, keep on keeping on.

**Rick** · 03-16-2011, 11:42 AM

I wish you guys wouldn't do this. I pulled the video of Kaku and that's not what he said. IF there is a full melt down and IF the containment buildings crack. He said in a worse case scenario it would be that bad. Here's the interview.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/japa...fense-13146080

**Rick** · 03-16-2011, 11:49 AM

And KY, you did exactly the same thing. The workers were pulled BRIEFLY because of high levels of radiation.

"Japans nuclear crisis appeared to be spinning out of control on Wednesday after workers withdrew briefly from a stricken power plant because of surging radiation levels..."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...72A0SS20110316

You guys chastise the media for sensationalizing and not reporting things accurately and then you come on here and do the same thing. That's why posting your sources in so important. I don't want folks to believe ME. I don't want them to believe any of YOU either. I want them to have all the facts and then decide for themselves. They can't do that when you guys just post partial truths.

**Justin Case** · 03-16-2011, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Rick

I wish you guys wouldn't do this. I pulled the video of Kaku and that's not what he said. IF there is a full melt down and IF the containment buildings crack. He said in a worse case scenario it would be that bad. Here's the interview.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/video/japa...fense-13146080

They ARE cracked rick,, at least that is what is being reported ,,, Dont get stuck thinking this cannot be a Chernobyl like event,,, thanks for finding the video,, I was just listening to it in the background, but to me, The Video is still very compelling... Things ARE and HAVE BEEN going from bad to worse, to assume that the situation is all of a sudden reverse course and be all better is a mistake IMO,,, They also said this morning that the Japanese HAVE asked the US Military for help now.

**Rick** · 03-16-2011, 11:56 AM

That's not true either unless you have a source for it. Everything I've read and have been reading this morning says there is speculation that two of the containment buildings may have cracked. That's not the same thing. If you have a definitive source then please post it because I haven't seen one yet.

**Justin Case** · 03-16-2011, 12:04 PM

I guess we will have to wait and see,, There is no denying things are getting worse,,,, not many more things can happen before full scale melt down.. its alot like the oil spill,,,, how long was it before we "Really" knew how bad it was ?? put you helmet on, The sky IS falling over there,,

**Justin Case** · 03-16-2011, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

That's not true either unless you have a source for it. Everything I've read and have been reading this morning says there is speculation that two of the containment buildings may have cracked. That's not the same thing. If you have a definitive source then please post it because I haven't seen one yet.

"may have" means "DID" IMO

http://www.outlookseries.com/A0997/S...ukio_Edano.htm

**Rick** · 03-16-2011, 12:09 PM

Exactly my point.

"Yukio Edano, Japan: Fukushima Nuclear Reactor Three Containment Vessel May Have Cracked." It's speculation.

**Justin Case** · 03-16-2011, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Exactly my point.

"Yukio Edano, Japan: Fukushima Nuclear Reactor Three Containment Vessel May Have Cracked." It's speculation.

So is the sun Rising tomorrow

**Rick** · 03-16-2011, 12:24 PM

I don't understand the question, I guess. I'm not saying the vessels are or are not breached. All I'm saying is I don't know and I haven't seen any reports that say they have been or are still in good shape. Yet, many are coming on here saying they have been breached without any corroborating proof. That can scare the bejeesus out of folks that might be reading this forum and isn't responsible.

**Justin Case** · 03-16-2011, 12:28 PM

Its what we are hearing on the news,,,,, granted they will say one thing one min and something else the next. Ok,, , we dont know whats really going on over there, only what they are telling us,, wait and see i guess.

**Alaskan Survivalist** · 03-16-2011, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

You know, AS, your attitude is actually atrocious with anyone that disagrees with you. The level of paranoia I see on this forum is pretty sad.

Rick you said

“I'm done with this. We going to die. In fact, we're probably dead already. Choi.”

Canadian Gorilla says “someone let me know when i can run outside in my camo loincloth and yell

WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE !!!!

I said “I bet there are some good deals on beach front property in Japan now for smart people with the keen business sense I see on this forum.

All three remarks are sarcastic. Why does mine stand out as atrocious?

Consider this my source of your hypocrisy