Mission Kansas - DRIVEWAY TAX...No really a drive way tax on your home

[OhioGrizzLapp]

A town in Kansas called Mission has enacted a drive way tax on residents, business, churches and even the BIG Box Stores......when they start taxing my wild edibles...I am headed to the hills.

http://www.fln.org/fln-news/article/...-driveway-tax/

[randyt]

that's not a tax, it's a fee for services. LMAO

[hunter63]

Well,....you park in a driveway, and drive on a parkway, so I guess you could baffle them with BS, rather than, dazzle them with brilliance......
Who maintains the 'drive ways"?

[OhioGrizzLapp]

Well I imagine the city maintains the skirt and walk, but the drive is the owners.....irregardless..... that city has got to be insane... I mean really now... I would dig up the skirt and walk and put a sign that says "Under Construction"

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

Here it is storm water runoff tax! It pisses me off everytime I think about it....by the way I own an irrigation ditch 700ft. long.

[Sourdough]

I have two driveways in the middle of no-where and I pay tax on both of them, I pay tax on my septic system, my water wells. The land is taxed and any improvements are also taxed, till you trun 65 years old. (9 months-26 days, but who counting).

[OhioGrizzLapp]

Well, how the heck do they have a clue how many times a dang driveway is used anyways.....

[Sourdough]

For me it is part of the property tax, any improvement gets taxed.

[LowKey]

Property tax, excise tax (on cars, trailers, motorcycles etc), income tax, state tax, sales tax, alcohol tax, gas tax, meal tax, accommodation tax, you name it tax. And they still don't have enough...

[randyt]

All this is not that big of deal. However there has been talk of a pole tax. The logistics of that tax will be challenging because contrary to popular belief, I learned in 7th grade gym class that not all men were created equal.

[Winnie]

Here it is storm water runoff tax! It pisses me off everytime I think about it....by the way I own an irrigation ditch 700ft. long.

Dam one end up and make it a lake?

[Nutman]

Just more stupid city officals trying to make more money to steal

[sushidog]

The time will soon come when the only thing you will be able to keep will be what you are willing to defend - through force of arms if necessary. Welcome to Amerika comrads!

"We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our selection between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debts as that we must be taxed in our meat in our drink, in our necessities and comforts, in our labors and in our amusements, for our callings and our creeds...our people... must come to labor sixteen hours in the twenty-four, give earnings of fifteen of these to the government for their debts and daily expenses; and the sixteenth being insufficient to afford us bread, we must live...This is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle becomes a precedent for a second; that second for a third; and so on, till the bulk of society is reduced to mere automatons of misery, to have no sensibilities left but for sinning and suffering... And the fore horse of this frightful team is public debt. Taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression." Thomas Jefferson

We are amused by a $72 tax now, and later agitated and angered when it becomes $720. Must we wait till it becomes $7,200 or even $72,000 before we take action against our government master's unsatable appetites? As Thomas Jefferson warned, we must act at the first departure from principle and move to right this wrong, or we will surely slide down this slipery slope into abject poverty and utter dispair with the ultimate loss of our precious liberty. We are surely on the road to surfdom and there are few of us willing to pledge our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor to halt this bullet train of public debt at every level (and the taxes necessary to feed it) straight to hell.

Chip

[Rick]

The time will soon come when the only thing you will be able to keep will be what you are willing to defend - through force of arms if necessary. Welcome to Amerika comrads!

Seriously? You think this government is soooo bad that we'll be shooting one another? Why wait for that to happen? If I believed that I'd move to another country right now.

[sushidog]

Not "this government" Rick, just Government in general. I guess that's just the Libertarian in me. No I don't think we will be able to defend ourselves against evil tyrants who claim to "govern" us. I just gave up my family home (that my dad built with his own hands) rather than fight the tax man. What good would it do? It would simply be suicide with nothing to gain. Guns are a last resort after all political solutions have been exhasuted. I'm afraid that violence will be used against us long before we use it against them. (With the exception of the criminally insane, like Timothy McVeigh, who's dispicable and horrific act no one in their right mind would condone or accept.) This said, remember that Waco in 93 came before Oklahoma City in 95. Not that one justidied the other or that the 2 are in any way related other than they were both massacres committed by insane paranoid extremists. Like Rambo would say though "They drew first blood."

On a lighter note, and more to the point of the original post, Calvin Coolidge, my absolute favorite president said:
Collecting more taxes than is absolutely necessary is legalized robbery.

Benjamin Franklin advised:
It would be a hard government that should tax its people one-tenth part of their income.

Mark Twain's colorful opinion on the subject of taxes:
"The only difference between a tax man and a taxidermist is that the taxidermist leaves the skin."

I think one of my favorite authors, Robert A. Heinlein said it best:
Be wary of strong drink. It can make you shoot at tax collectors... and miss.

Do you Grok it?

As far as leaving the country, I believe that this is and has always been the greatest country on earth - its faults nonwithstanding.
Why leave now, when we are on the verge of rediscovering our Constitutional freedoms? I fought for and would have laid down my life for our constitutionally protected freedoms, as did many. If I chose to abandon America now, in her time of need, that would dishonor the memory of the fallen, and the cause they sacrificed for. No, I would rather die here free and penniless than to have all the money in the world yet be the subject of a despot in a foriegn land.

Chip

[Rick]

Of course there's also the option to live here with money and be free. That's the one I'm choosing.

[sushidog]

Yep, I assume that's all of our goals, Rick!

Let's hope that the Government allows us to keep the majority of what we earn, and not have it stolen from us by excessive and rediculous taxes, such as this driveway tax and given to those who didn't earn it. Just remember this when it's time to vote!

What's next, a parkway tax? This brings up my next question. Why do we park on a driveway, yet drive on a parkway? What if we tore up our driveway and parked on the street? Would we still be subject to this absurd tax? What is someone was blind and couldn't drive, so they didn't even own a car? Would they be subject to said tax even though they received no benefit from their driveway?

I guess, it's a mystery of life.

Chip

[Rick]

An increase in taxes is inevitable. We have to pay down both our states' debts and the federal debt. There are only three ways to do that. Increase government's income (taxes), reduce government's expenditures (services) or a combination of the two. That's it. There are no other ways to reduce the debt load. Hide your Hong if you want to keep it.

[crashdive123]

I gotta disagree somewhat. Reducing taxes has been proven to stimulate economic growth, which in turn brings in more money to the government in taxes. I'm sure that there is a point at which it would not work (don't know what that point is) but I don't think we have reached it. Spending within (or below) ones means is critical, coupled with tax policies that actually spur growth is, I believe, the answer.

http://www.heritage.org/research/rep...ower-tax-rates

[Rick]

I don't disagree but I think reducing expenditures has to go along with that. It's the same in our personal lives. We can make more money or spend less to reduce debt.