Survivorman/Man vs. Wild.

**bikerweb** · 02-25-2011, 10:22 AM

Less Stroud definatley has a more realistic show. Bear is a freak show. For gods sake cook the food you catch! I cant fault him though. He was british spec ops. Most guys loose it after they get out. You cant stop once you start. He directed it to the outdoors. Good on him.

**Justin Case** · 02-25-2011, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by bikerweb

Less Stroud definatley has a more realistic show. Bear is a freak show. For gods sake cook the food you catch! I cant fault him though. He was british spec ops. Most guys loose it after they get out. You cant stop once you start. He directed it to the outdoors. Good on him.

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**elabkokim** · 03-01-2011, 08:15 PM

I prefer Survivorman. Man vs Wild reminded me of the game show Survivor, where the only person with real survival training (in the first episode, first season) was immediately voted off. In a real survival situation, you do not banish your only real survival expert. Likewise, to get down a mountain, you do not carve a pine tree into a pole and use it to pole vault repeatedly down the side of a mountain.

What I mean is Man vs Wild struck me as not being real. Bear was doing things people should not do in real survival situations. I know Bear has real skills, but a show supposedly about surviving should really be about surviving, not taking foolish risks or showing off for the camera/audience. Oh well, that's Hollywood. I've seen every Survivorman episode and about five minutes of two different Man vs Wild Episodes.

Then I came across Dual Survival with Dave Canterbury and Cody Lundin. At first, I thought it was weird with Cody wearing nothing but wool socks in the snow in Nova Scotia, and Dave and Cody arguing about differences of opinion on just about everything. However, when Cody built an exceptionally warm efficient shelter for the night, he impressed Dave, and me too. Anyway, I watched every episode and it's my favorite series now. They argue a lot, but it just goes to show there isn't one right way to deal with every situation.

Comparing Dual Survival to Survivorman, I find the dialogue in Dual Survival to be a relief from listening to Les Stroud's monologue, which never bothered me the first time I watched it, but after watching Dual Survival and then watching some Survivor episodes for a second time, it almost sounded like constant complaining from Les Stroud. But maybe, that's the real deal. Get stuck in the middle of nowhere by yourself, and who wouldn't be constantly thinking negative thoughts? All the more reason to always stick to the buddy system.

**Trabitha** · 03-01-2011, 09:26 PM

Did I hear right? Did Bear REALLY wear a seal carcass as a wetsuit???

**Sarge47** · 03-01-2011, 10:54 PM

Bear did skin out a dead seal & use the hide as a sort of a wet suit. Now he's billing himself as a former SEAL!

This thread was started way back in 2007, when there were only the 2 survival shows listed. Since then we've had several others. "Survivorman" didn't survive, but "Man vs. Wild" did. Then along came "Dual Survival", which became my favorite over "M. vs. W.," as well as another new one: "Man, Woman, Wild." I'd like to see Les do another series along side Dave & Cody, that would be "Super-Cool!" They could call it "Triple Survival." Bear could team up with the Hawkes and they could call that one: "Two idiots & a lady." 1st show out, Mrs. Hawke has to decide which of the 2 guys has the cuter tush!

**copybiz** · 03-02-2011, 12:48 AM

Survivorman rules and is just plain more realistic

**Trabitha** · 03-03-2011, 11:40 AM

LOL @ Sarge!!
You know...I like duel survivor too! I thought Cody was a wus in the beginning...but the more I watch, the more I like him and think that Dave is overly reckless, angry, and irritating. LOL!! I have to say I was cheering for the bees in the bee hive when Dave thought it was a good idea to try and collect honey. He's such an idiot sometimes. LOL!!!

**Knife Guy** · 03-06-2011, 07:14 PM

There was a Man vs. Wild episode on yesterday in which Bear improvised a high altitude swing line on a rock face and later threw the line with a rock attached across a crevice and then shimmied across. Both activities looked like good ways to get killed or seriously injured if you were actually in survival mode as opposed to having a support crew to check the safety of your lines. I agree with others, it's an entertaining show and contains some good tips, but there are also some risky behaviors thrown in for the "TV effect" which would reduce, not enhance, your chances of survival.

--The Knife Guy

**Sarge47** · 03-06-2011, 07:59 PM

Originally Posted by Knife Guy

There was a Man vs. Wild episode on yesterday in which Bear improvised a high altitude swing line on a rock face and later threw the line with a rock attached across a crevice and then shimmied across. Both activities looked like good ways to get killed or seriously injured if you were actually in survival mode as opposed to having a support crew to check the safety of your lines. I agree with others, it's an entertaining show and contains some good tips, but there are also some risky behaviors thrown in for the "TV effect" which would reduce, not enhance, your chances of survival.

--The Knife Guy

Hey Knife Guy, why don't you "Shinney" over to the intro section & tell us about yourself?

**Ssgt_DimeBag** · 03-27-2011, 01:46 PM

Heres the old Les vs Bear!
First the man did serve in the SAS.
Second he has never said he served in the legion.He did a show with regular guys with legionaries.Called: Escape to the Legion.
Third at the beginning of all the shows it says"Bear Grylls and the crew receive support when they are in potentially life threatening situations, as required by health and safety regulations.
On some occasions, situations are presented to Bear so he can demonstrate survival techniques".

"Professional advice should always be sought before entering any dangerous environment".

Now this some times means they go to Bear and say "OK this is the deal now how would you get out"
Most of what he does is Military survival were you have to take them chances to get out from behind enemy lines!Yes I would take the chance of the water fall over two days to go around.People take life risks every time they climb Mt Everest and he even did that.
Now Les is more "no one is after me so I got all the time in the world to get out so I'll play my blow pipe".Les has a Sat phone on him at all times plus the crew is always near by mostly with a chopper and a camp.Following him at all times.You can even look at his web site and he will even tell you.
So these are two very different survivalist.One is "Crap my plane got shot down I got to get out of dodge".The other is "o man I got turned around lost my ride and now I have to walk out".I respect both men,but to totally say that one is a fraud over any other is just wrong.You may prefer the way Les does things,but that does not mean Bear is wrong in his ways.I don't have to watch a show of a man coming out half dead to understand what hes trying to show me.If the camera's not rolling I'm not sleeping in the cold just to prove my point either.

**Melissa Montana** · 03-27-2011, 11:45 PM

Yea what Dime said

.....Plus he is a lot sexier then the others.

**Winnie** · 03-28-2011, 03:35 AM

Originally Posted by DimeBag333

Heres the old Les vs Bear!
First the man did serve in the SAS.
Second he has never said he served in the legion.He did a show with regular guys with legionaries.Called: Escape to the Legion.
Third at the beginning of all the shows it says"Bear Grylls and the crew receive support when they are in potentially life threatening situations, as required by health and safety regulations.
On some occasions, situations are presented to Bear so he can demonstrate survival techniques".

"Professional advice should always be sought before entering any dangerous environment".

Now this some times means they go to Bear and say "OK this is the deal now how would you get out"
Most of what he does is Military survival were you have to take them chances to get out from behind enemy lines!Yes I would take the chance of the water fall over two days to go around.People take life risks every time they climb Mt Everest and he even did that.
Now Les is more "no one is after me so I got all the time in the world to get out so I'll play my blow pipe".Les has a Sat phone on him at all times plus the crew is always near by mostly with a chopper and a camp.Following him at all times.You can even look at his web site and he will even tell you.
So these are two very different survivalist.One is "Crap my plane got shot down I got to get out of dodge".The other is "o man I got turned around lost my ride and now I have to walk out".I respect both men,but to totally say that one is a fraud over any other is just wrong.You may prefer the way Les does things,but that does not mean Bear is wrong in his ways.I don't have to watch a show of a man coming out half dead to understand what hes trying to show me.If the camera's not rolling I'm not sleeping in the cold just to prove my point either.

Now you see, this is where I get annoyed. Bear Grylls, DID NOT serve with the SAS. He served with 21Regiment SAS(R). This is a part-time Reservist Regiment that bears little resemblance with 22SAS Regiment.

http://www.sasspecialairservice.com/bear-grylls.html
http://www.eliteukforces.info/specia.../sas-reserves/
http://www.eliteukforces.info/special-air-service/

While there is no doubt he served in the military as a territorial reservist. Make no mistake he was not Regular Army.

**Melissa Montana** · 03-28-2011, 04:24 AM

Yea well see Winnie here in the states we have reserves and they fight right along with our full timers and very much respected,90% of our reserves do not even have SF training.Maybe over there it is a big separation,but not here.What has Les done?Lived as a hippie for a year?A hippie now able to buy an off the grid lifestyle that the average person couldn't even afford.Its just alternate energy.And he only got that because of the show.Sure wasn't his music.ROTFLMAO

**Winnie** · 03-28-2011, 04:48 AM

I can't comment on Les Stroud, I've never seen any of his shows.
The Terriers over here have the greatest of respect, fight alongside the Regulars just as your reservists do.
What I take exception to is the inference that he served with the Regular SAS. He did not.
I am sure Dimebag 333 would agree, exagerrating your Army career for your own gain, not only ruins your own credibility, it also sullies those you served with and those you purport to have served with. It's just not done.

**Sarge47** · 03-28-2011, 07:36 AM

Originally Posted by Melissa Montana

Yea what Dime said

.....Plus he is a lot sexier then the others.

Ya see Crash? I told you that the girlies would like Bear's cute little Tush! However, when they kiss him they might smell urine on his breath.....!

**Sarge47** · 03-28-2011, 07:43 AM

Originally Posted by Melissa Montana

Yea well see Winnie here in the states we have reserves and they fight right along with our full timers and very much respected,90% of our reserves do not even have SF training.Maybe over there it is a big separation,but not here.What has Les done?Lived as a hippie for a year?A hippie now able to buy an off the grid lifestyle that the average person couldn't even afford.Its just alternate energy.And he only got that because of the show.Sure wasn't his music.ROTFLMAO

I have two nephews and a brother who serve, or have served in the Reserves. I also have two brothers who served in the Army. I have a grown son who served in the United States Marines and was in Desert Storm. While it's true that they all fight together, the way they fight, their attitudes, toughness, etc, is as different as night & day. The Marines go through a lot tougher training. However, my concern with Bear is that he teaches crap that'll hurt you or get you killed.

Also, I LIKE Les' music!

What's wrong with being a Hippie? Cody Lundin is a "Bush Hippie" & I also like his style. Everybody needs to know & learn how to survive, not just the "tough" guys.

**Winnie** · 03-28-2011, 07:57 AM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

Ya see Crash? I told you that the girlies would like Bear's cute little Tush! However, when they kiss him they might smell urine on his breath.....!

Not to mention Elephant poo

**Miguelito** · 03-30-2011, 08:41 PM

Bear Grylls is a badass! BG ALL THE WAY!

**Melissa Montana** · 03-30-2011, 09:28 PM

I'm sure he brushes his teeth before he goes home!
The man is sexy!
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O i had to.ROTFLMAO!
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O nothing wrong with everyone learning survival,just not into the hippie type.
Guess i have some prejudice Bear is built like the hubs.
Yea even Cody learned that his hippie no shoe wearing was not the best thing in the cold.lol
Even Les tried his hippie medicine for over 6 months when he caught a parasite and then had to goto a real DR.