big brother is flying high in your sky

**mountain1** · 01-23-2011, 02:31 PM

these people are out of control. it's time for the american people to say enough is enough.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012204111.html

**crashdive123** · 01-23-2011, 03:17 PM

Aside from the provocative article title, I don't see a problem with the use of the small drone in this case. They had enough cause for a judge to issue a warrant. They had the place under surveillance. They used unconventional means to conduct that surveillance in order to protect the lives of LEO. They executed the warrant. Had they been using the drone to indiscriminately surveil the public, I would see a problem, but not with the way it was used in the article you linked.

**Pal334** · 01-23-2011, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by mountain1

these people are out of control. it's time for the american people to say enough is enough.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...012204111.html

What are you talking about? The tactics being described are the same as those that have been used for decades with helicopters and light aircraft. The only difference seems to be is that a drone is more economical, surely that can not be what you are referringto?
Perhaps if I understood what you meant by "these people are out of control.", I could better understand the intent of this post

**mountain1** · 01-23-2011, 04:25 PM

did no one catch the "urban monitoring" part. i call that spying on the american people and i also call that TYRANNY.
"these people are out of control"? look around you.
so now it's "OK" for the goverment to have silent drones flying around urban areas and spying on the citizens? sounds like china to me. what's next? you speak out against your goverment and then you disappear (again china), your are already called a racist for doing such things.
these people are out of control because it is none of their buisness what i do...period...
when are the american people going to wake up and realize they are not slaves.
i am a free soverign individual. nuff said...

**Pal334** · 01-23-2011, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by mountain1

did no one catch the "urban monitoring" part. i call that spying on the american people and i also call that TYRANNY.
"these people are out of control"? look around you.
so now it's "OK" for the goverment to have silent drones flying around urban areas and spying on the citizens? sounds like china to me. what's next? you speak out against your goverment and then you disappear (again china), your are already called a racist for doing such things.
these people are out of control because it is none of their buisness what i do...period...
when are the american people going to wake up and realize they are not slaves.
i am a free soverign individual. nuff said...

Mmmm, ok, I guess that is one way to look at it. I don't agree with your leaps in judgement, but that is freedom.

**Rick** · 01-23-2011, 04:41 PM

Why did you take the phrase out of context? The article says,

"One manufacturer already advertises one of its small systems as ideal for "urban monitoring.""

Someone's out of control but I don't think it's the guberment.

**crashdive123** · 01-23-2011, 05:10 PM

Good golly Miss Molly. Your leap to

so now it's "OK" for the government to have silent drones flying around urban areas and spying on the citizens?

had nothing to do with the article you cited. If you want us to buy into your conspiracy theories you may need to provide evidence, not conjecture.

**Rick** · 01-23-2011, 05:14 PM

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**oly** · 01-23-2011, 05:17 PM

If someone needs to go to that extent in order to spy on me, well, I don't care, they must have way tooooo much time on there hands.

**Rick** · 01-23-2011, 05:18 PM

Or they want a lumpy chair. Huh? Now you're worried aren't you?

**BENESSE** · 01-23-2011, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by mountain1

did no one catch the "urban monitoring" part. i call that spying on the american people and i also call that TYRANNY.
"these people are out of control"? look around you.
so now it's "OK" for the goverment to have silent drones flying around urban areas and spying on the citizens? sounds like china to me. what's next? you speak out against your goverment and then you disappear (again china), your are already called a racist for doing such things.
these people are out of control because it is none of their buisness what i do...period...
when are the american people going to wake up and realize they are not slaves.
i am a free soverign individual. nuff said...

Hey bud, I'm in the mother-of-all-urban areas, and I don't mind.
Don't worry about MY urban area and I won't worry about your wilderness area. Fair?
C'mmon over and get involved in our day-to-day troubles or myob.

**Camp10** · 01-23-2011, 05:33 PM

They routinely fly helicopters over my property (and the land around it) in the fall looking for pot plants. I dont know why it would be any different if it was a drone..except they might catch me showering under the eaves if I cant hear them coming.

**crashdive123** · 01-23-2011, 05:35 PM

You never know Camp ......... you might be the next Youtube sensation.

**Camp10** · 01-23-2011, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by crashdive123

You never know Camp ......... you might be the next Youtube sensation.

It might get lots of hits, but it wont be a sensation. Lol.

**2dumb2kwit** · 01-23-2011, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by Camp10

They routinely fly helicopters over my property (and the land around it) in the fall looking for pot plants. I dont know why it would be any different if it was a drone..except they might catch me showering under the eaves if I cant hear them coming.

Now that's an image I really didn't need in my head. LOL

**JPGreco** · 01-23-2011, 05:50 PM

You're right to privacy doesn't exist in when you are in plain view of anything, including drones. If they can see you with a helicopter, they can see you with a drone. Hell, the local government around me used google maps to find people with pools who didn't have the proper paper work and certificates to have one.

**mountain1** · 01-23-2011, 05:57 PM

it also says in the article that a few Pd's already have them.

"drones raise the prospect of much more pervasive survellance". what part of "urban monitering" to you folks not understand?
why do you think the goverment has a 'right' to spy on it's on citizens?
this is the problem with this country is that they will role over and do what they are told like good little slaves and take it.
these things are not a "conspiracy threoy" they are happing right in front of your eyes you just don't care or refuse to see...
i believe in liberty, freedom, and soveringty. not a "ruling" tyrannical goverment.
i don't need the 'police' to look after me. someone messes with me or my family, they'll find themselves in a pine box.
thank god i live in montana where the men are free and not slaves. you live your lives as you choose and i'll live mine free...
MONTANA; WHERE THE MEN ARE MEN AND THE SHEEP ARE SCARED

**mountain1** · 01-23-2011, 05:58 PM

they have no right to do that either. if someone wants to grow weed it's none of their da&m buisness.

**mountain1** · 01-23-2011, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by BENESSE

Hey bud, I'm in the mother-of-all-urban areas, and I don't mind.
Don't worry about MY urban area and I won't worry about your wilderness area. Fair?
C'mmon over and get involved in our day-to-day troubles or myob.

i avoid the filth of urban speawl at all cost. you wouldn't catch me dead in nyc. if i were there i would take care of myself. don't need someone else to do it for me.

**Rick** · 01-23-2011, 06:00 PM

Do you find it the least bit odd that everyone that has responded to this post is wrong but you? And what makes you think Montana is exempt?

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