Survivorman/Man vs. Wild.

**NevadaCarry** · 07-22-2007, 12:28 AM

I like them both. I started off watching Man vs Wild and then started catching Survivorman. I've read that Man vs Wild has some things setup for him but I don't really care. I think you can pick up good tips from both shows. I don't really look at it as a competition between the two shows.

**tarheelfan** · 07-22-2007, 03:27 PM

I like them both...Bear Grylls is crazy tough and pretty crazy in the head attempting some of the things he does but you gotta respect him. Les Stroud, survival expert and tough as nails for filming it himself.

**Sarge47** · 07-22-2007, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by tarheelfan

I like them both...Bear Grylls is crazy tough and pretty crazy in the head attempting some of the things he does but you gotta respect him. Les Stroud, survival expert and tough as nails for filming it himself.

Plus ole' Les can really wail on that harp of his!

**zadig39** · 07-22-2007, 04:44 PM

I like both shows. I think survivorman is a little closer to the reality many of us would face, showing ways to use parts of vehicles,cameras etc that we may have available and showing the effects of hunger,fatige and depression.But Bear is definately a bad-***. That guy will piss in his own canteen before he even looks for water. And is sure to eat a bug in every episode.

**BillHay** · 07-23-2007, 09:33 PM

Originally Posted by Atlanta Randy

I have had a little expereince in helping produce some of the North American shows for the discovery channel.

Bear really does go through the scenerios by himself. The camera crew has never helped him in any way (Other than unwittingly providing light during a night time run from a bear.)

The 5 day trip has obviously got to be edited down to 1 hour. So what you don't see is his hours if not days of walking to find the plants, springs, streams, trees and animals he encounters along the way.

You may even notice that some of the scenes are edited out of sequence. If Bear finds a fruit tree, a snake and a spring all in one day, the editors will edit these scenes in over the course of the hour long show.

In order to be entertaining, the editing may be out of wack but the trek is all too real for Bear.

The show is in no way "fake" or "staged"....just edited for television. And to answer the questions about what he eats and why the premise is not of an intentional camper but a lost tourist with almost no equipment having to use the most extreme measures, evidenced in the fact that even though he knows he'll need shelter he leaves his parachute behind.

Randy

So then its safe to say you worked with Dr.Ron Hood ? If so, what did you think of him? How about the whole water escapade of this Mr.Grylls? I do not beleive. Please help, Man vs Wild is most unconvincing.

**Sarge47** · 07-23-2007, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by BillHay

So then its safe to say you worked with Dr.Ron Hood ? If so, what did you think of him? How about the whole water escapade of this Mr.Grylls? I do not beleive. Please help, Man vs Wild is most unconvincing.

This is an older thread, Bill. Right now Mr. G. is under fire on the thread: "I told you freakin' guys!" And for the record, I have personally talked to Dr. Hood on several occaisons but never attended his school. He seems like a cool guy, but I think he milks the "survival" game for a steep price.

**mlfuller** · 07-24-2007, 04:58 PM

I want to first say that I enjoy watching Man vs. Wild. It is a very interesting show that provides some very useful tips. However, I find it hard to believe that the show is not staged in some ways. On the episode where Bear tries to ride a wild horse, if you run the episode in slow motion you can tell that the horse is wearing horse shoes. I was very disappointed when I saw that. I had to watch it about 5 or 6 times just to make sure that I really saw that.

**Marvolo** · 07-24-2007, 06:03 PM

Soe digital:What you're saying isn't fact.

**Marvolo** · 07-24-2007, 06:14 PM

He does say it may have broken free of a ranch or barn.

**blewgrass** · 07-24-2007, 06:49 PM

Yeah.. the horses were bogus, and misleading. I'm pretty gullable but that's a pocket full of wooden nickels.

**SOE digital** · 07-24-2007, 07:20 PM

Yeah anyone who thinks that was a wild horse is a numpty.

**Farakon** · 07-24-2007, 08:20 PM

Question for you Atlanta

I'm the one that posted in the other thread about having a friend who saw “some guy with an accent” in a ditch by the side of the road.

Is it possible that they were filming a shot that would have been difficult / impossible to get. i.e. They had footage of Bear crawling through a ditch from far away and wanted a close up, shot the close up later and cut it in to look like it was one continuous thing?

Or do they just shoot while he is out in the shiggy and go with what they have?

I don't really have a dog in the Real vs Not Real debate. I'm just interested in how it's made.

Thanks

**bravo30** · 07-24-2007, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Atlanta Randy

I have had a little expereince in helping produce some of the North American shows for the discovery channel.

Bear really does go through the scenerios by himself. The camera crew has never helped him in any way (Other than unwittingly providing light during a night time run from a bear.)

The 5 day trip has obviously got to be edited down to 1 hour. So what you don't see is his hours if not days of walking to find the plants, springs, streams, trees and animals he encounters along the way.

You may even notice that some of the scenes are edited out of sequence. If Bear finds a fruit tree, a snake and a spring all in one day, the editors will edit these scenes in over the course of the hour long show.

In order to be entertaining, the editing may be out of wack but the trek is all too real for Bear.

The show is in no way "fake" or "staged"....just edited for television. And to answer the questions about what he eats and why the premise is not of an intentional camper but a lost tourist with almost no equipment having to use the most extreme measures, evidenced in the fact that even though he knows he'll need shelter he leaves his parachute behind.

Randy

may not be fake or staged but hes no ''LEE STRAUD'' thats for sure if you notice in the credits theres a survival expert there ......

**Sarge47** · 07-24-2007, 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by bravo30

may not be fake or staged but hes no ''LEE STRAUD'' thats for sure if you notice in the credits theres a survival expert there ......

The name is Les Stroud, and he uses survival experts as well. These experts are indigenous to the region our boys are inserting themselves too and are giving them some advice & knowledge to fine-tune their skills.

**spiritman** · 07-25-2007, 12:20 AM

uh oh... another hard core bear enthusiast... SOE digital i feel your pain

**SOE digital** · 07-25-2007, 02:47 AM

Soe digital:What you're saying isn't fact.

It is fact...because I've seen it first hand.

**Sarge47** · 07-25-2007, 06:02 PM

Or should we start referring to you as the BGG? Anyway, if you want to go to Bear's website (www.beargrylls.com) you can click onto Bear's Blog and from their click onto "Merchandising" for Bear's really cool t-shirts & Hoodies , & his very own recommendations. (www.beargrylls.itchyfeet.com/index.php. Be warned that they're selling the Leatherman wave for 89 Quid (Pounds to us yanks, around $180.) Everything I saw there I can buy State-side for half of what they're asking. The Good news? Bear says he's shooting a 3rd season, let's all hope it doesn't get canceled.

**nell67** · 07-25-2007, 06:19 PM

LOL @ Sarge!!!!!!!

**Sarge47** · 07-25-2007, 09:37 PM

OK guys, go to www.tvtattle.com and scroll down about 11 articles to the one on Discovery channel. Then click on it. Bravo Discovery!

**Sarge47** · 07-27-2007, 07:26 PM

Wow! Bear is off Discovery's schedule for awhile. I can't find any reference to him at the Discovery channel's web-site even though he was supposed to have a "season 1" show tonight. "Season 1" Survivorman episodes are on instead. Whattaya think?