Can't decide

[crashdive123]

Here's Beo as he enters his living room, coming up to a Johnny Butterbutt. OMG JB is armed!
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[Beo]

That is too good... lol... love it.
BUt here's what I say about all these smileys:
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[Tony uk]

That is too good... lol... love it.
BUt here's what I say about all these smileys:
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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA, Die cheerleading scum !

[crashdive123]

Very nice. Hey blame Pee for the smileys. I'm just about illi... ellli...stupid with a computer.

[Kemperor]

This is my reasoning on the rifle. I live in neighborhood that's fairly open and not too packed. Three of the houses around me are abandoned There are a lot of dogs in this neighborhood. Living around the dogs, I've learned to distinguish their barks and howls and what each indicates. So, I'll know if something is awry in the hood. Every house that is inhabited has a gun of some sort, mostly shotguns. If I hear the certain barks, I'll look for where they started set up the rifle, and make sure the neighbors are safe/make sure whoever isn't coming to my property. A laser sight would usually be enough as troublemakers generally break into cars in my area. There isn't too many home invasions. However, it's best to be ready for it anyway, and their are a lot of babies and children in the hood, so I'd be very careful with my shots. Knowing where all the gas lines and water mains run is a good knowledge to have as well. So, if the neighbors can take care of the problems themselves, then they will, but they'll have less to worry about and panic less when they see a red dot on troublemaker. If it's outside, that is. If it's a home invasion, I grew up playing war and tag and hide 'n seek here, so I know every nook and cranny and get to the house being invaded with ease. Considering that the nieghbors have guns and that about 1/3 of the neighbors dogs are pitbulls, I probably wouldn't have to do too much. Just adding more security in the long run. Plus, if TSHTF in my area or on a grand scale, that high powered rifle would come in really handy. If they entered my house, I'd use a handgun or whatever is handy. I know how to move silently through my own house.

As for target practice, I live three or four miles from Camp Atterbury, which is the 2nd main deployment/training center to Iraq in the US, I believe. They have a shooting range open to the public, and that's most likely where I'd go for practice/instruction. As far as shotguns go, I've found that I'm more comfortable shooting a 10 gauge than I am a 12. I like the kick. Gives more respect for what the gun can do. For instance, my friend told me about seeing this kid shoot a 12 gauge on TV and the kick knocked him on his arse. The hosts of the show started yelling like city folk do about how that's irresponsible and the parents should be shot. Then my friend says, "That same thing happened to me when I was a kid. If the kick of the gun knocks you on your @$$, then you'll realize the power coming out of the other end. Getting knocked down like that was one of the greatest lessons I ever learned about the gun. It made me respect that gun. The hosts of that show are who should be shot, or would shoot themselves due to that lack of respect and wisdom." I'm gonna have to say that I agree with him.

[Gray Wolf]

This is my personal favorite, I like to take them out before they cross the state line.

The AW Super Magnum is world famous for its accuracy and it's proven durability in combat. Adopted by the British SAS as their primary sniper rifle and many US agencies following suite, this rifle is designed to take anything thrown in its way. The .338 Lapua Magnum cartridge is known for shooting accurately at distances of 1500 yards and beyond.
The Accuracy International Arctic Warfare Rifle System is perhaps the world's strongest and most reliable weapon. The machined action is bonded to a full length alloy chassis system for brutal strength in even the harshest environments. Featuring a 2 stage trigger, 3 position safety and proof tested barrel, the AW offers dependable accuracy that professionals can rely on. The AW series features a folding stock, adjustable cheek piece and a buttspike for long observation periods. 5 round magazine.

[chopp29]

Why does it have to be out of those 2 particular rifles? Just curious.....do u like those 2 over all other options? My opionion, out of those 2 for home def go for the 9mm, simply because an M1 is not a very good choice. But also consider the remington 20 are 12 guage model 870 home def shotgun. Cant beat it when your looking for home def. Just a thought.

[RBB]

For home defense - I would recommend a short barrelled slide (pump) action 12 gauge shotgun. Most larger gun shops have a few trade-ins from police departments and you can usually pick them up fairly cheap. They are more reliable than most semi-automatic shotguns (Bennalli excluded - I've heard very good things about the reliability of their semi-autos), and basically idiot proof - especially those with a tang safety.

If you have skill with a handgun - I'd recommend the Glock in .40 or .45 cal - or a revolver in a similar caliber. Again, fairly idiot proof.

For a rifle - for in town use - I'd go with the 9MM rather than the 30-06 M1 Garand. 30-06 could easily end up going somewhere you didn't want it to go. Besides, have you priced them lately?

A good reasonably priced compromise might be the SKS Simonov carbine with the 7.62 X 39 cartridge. I'd use a soft-nose bullet - again to make sure it wasn't going to travel further than I wanted it to - or through more buildings and vehicles than I wanted it to. I would not use an AK-47 as every one I've ever shot was fairly inaccurate.

[Proud American]

For a intimidating gun, that is a pistol but not for home defense heres a .60 cal

http://www.vincelewis.net/50magnum/600-gun-5.JPG

And to see him shoot the Pfeifer Zeliska here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up-pkMCKwX0

Also Grey Wolf i think thats the same sniper system the SAS use. But its for "touching people" not for home defense just like the M1 gran. If there in your house your goin to have to switch and pull out that 9m pistol.

[crashdive123]

For a intimidating gun, that is a pistol but not for home defense heres a .60 cal

http://www.vincelewis.net/50magnum/600-gun-5.JPG

And to see him shoot the Pfeifer Zeliska here it is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up-pkMCKwX0

What a great example of somebody using a gun that they have no business using. As was said in earlier not every gun is right for everybody.

[beerrunner13]

I think we can rename that on Johnny Butterbut and his hand cannon

[Rick]

new gun. $650.00
range time. $12.00 per hour
Having someone video you making a fool of yourself and posting on the internet. Priceless

[crashdive123]

Amen to that!

[chopp29]

Wow, how many teeth yall think he lost on that shot???

[FVR]

What an idiot.

[crashdive123]

Wow, how many teeth yall think he lost on that shot???

Both of em.

[Proud American]

Well in defence of the man in that movie, the gun is the largest handgun ever made. It is around 2 feet long and ways 13 pounds.

Rick the gun actualy costes 10 grand, also its 40$ a pop(more like KA-boom)

That is though a complete waste of money and effort. That gun is completely inpractical. The only perk is that you can say you've shot the largest hand gun in the world. This needles to say would not be on my list of house protection fire arms. So sorry Kemperor that I did not answer your question, but used your thread to post a funny video!

Personaly, Kemperor none of your choices are up close and personal home defence weapons, but they are great guns for there purposes.

[Rick]

Dang it Don, I almost choked on my coffee with that response. Good one!

Young - That might make the perfect house defense gun. Fire it once and everyone is bleeding through the ears so the intruder is rendered harmless. Or....fire it facing away from the intruder. Once he sees the weapon fly past him he's sure to be confused.

[Beo]

Oh my Gaaaaaaaaawd you guys are killing me with these videos, that dude is a frig'n idiot wrapped in moron... lol... that was so funny I spit my coffee all over my desk and paperwork... lol...
That gun is frig'n waste of mony and time, no praticality whatsoever, but I would love to be there to see that dude do that in person so I could laugh my *** off at that Big Fat Johnny Butterbutt Goofball Idiot... lol...

[Sourdough]

Odd in a discussion of home defense, no one talks about defense. No one talks about retreating to point "X" and rolling the mattress over for a fort, break the light switch off as you go by. Hide in the dark. wait for them to back'light themselves in the doorway. Put the ear plugs in your ears, yea, the ones that you have attached to you Home defense firearm. Maybe have one set for every house member, that kind of stuff.

No the smart thing is worry about the perfect firearm, the perfect ammo, and instead of waiting for them to be back'lighted, the smart thing is go looking for them, be right in the open. Your the home owner, right? Well maybe dead right? Be smart live. For me Remington Model 11-87 in .20 gage youth model. That way anyone over 12 years old can be trained to discharge it. And how to reload it.

If you have home fire drills.......Have home invasion drills.