North Korea

[finallyME]

So, can we just give North Korea to China? We should call up China and tell them that they can have the whole country, as long as they replace the leadership.

[BENESSE]

Why on earth would the Chinese want NC when they already own us and they didn't have to lift a finger?

[Ken]

We blew it in North Korea just like we're blowing it with Iran.

I believe in preemptive strikes. I know a lot of you will strongly disagree with me. Sorry. It's much easier to defend against a nuclear warhead before it's manufactured than it is to deal with it after it's been launched.

North Korea, Iran, Pakistan.......... Does anyone really believe that their nuclear programs/weapons will never be used by a fanatic at some point in time?

We live in a really nasty world, and self defense is our right against insane regimes that tell us that they want to destroy us BEFORE they even have the capacity to do so. World opinion be damned. Eliminating a real threat is not immoral - it's common sense. Period.

I make no apologies. What should we do? Negotiate ANOTHER agreement and pay them off while givng them more time to break yet another agreement? Call the police and tell them that they're threatening us? Wait until Anchorage gets melted?

[BENESSE]

We blew it in North Korea just like we're blowing it with Iran.

I believe in preemptive strikes.
You mean like the one we pulled in Iraq? Glad that mission was accomplished and done with.
I know a lot of you will strongly disagree with me. Sorry. It's much easier to defend against a nuclear warhead before it's manufactured than it is to deal with it after it's been launched.
North Korea, Iran, Pakistan.......... Does anyone really believe that their nuclear programs/weapons will never be used by a fanatic at some point in time?
We happened to be the ones who used them first...could they be asking themselves the same thing?
We live in a really nasty world, and self defense is our right against insane regimes that tell us that they want to destroy us BEFORE they even have the capacity to do so. World opinion be damned.
As long as we are PART OF the world, the world support is vitally important. When we move the country to Mars, we might have a case.
Eliminating a real threat is not immoral - it's common sense. Period.
Vigilantism is not condoned by law in this country (you'll certainly tell me if I'm wrong) nor is it internationally. Even if it were, wouldn't we be at risk of going down that "slippery slope" everyone's so afraid of? Who's to say that China or Russia or Younameitstan doesn't start feeling threatened by X and decides to take matters in their own hands...you know, preemptively? Is that the precedent we'd like to set?
I make no apologies. What should we do? Negotiate ANOTHER agreement and pay them off while givng them more time to break yet another agreement? Call the police and tell them that they're threatening us? Wait until Anchorage gets melted?

We need to galvanize the sane world and act as one. Just because we're unable (read:clueless) to do that doesn't mean we should abandon diplomacy entirely and resort to a unilateral strike. I don't like the global state of affairs any more than you do Ken, but we are no longer powerful enough or unified enough to withstand the $hit storm that kind of action is bound bring right back to us.

[finallyME]

We blew it in North Korea just like we're blowing it with Iran.

I believe in preemptive strikes. I know a lot of you will strongly disagree with me. Sorry. It's much easier to defend against a nuclear warhead before it's manufactured than it is to deal with it after it's been launched.

North Korea, Iran, Pakistan.......... Does anyone really believe that their nuclear programs/weapons will never be used by a fanatic at some point in time?

We live in a really nasty world, and self defense is our right against insane regimes that tell us that they want to destroy us BEFORE they even have the capacity to do so. World opinion be damned. Eliminating a real threat is not immoral - it's common sense. Period.

I make no apologies. What should we do? Negotiate ANOTHER agreement and pay them off while givng them more time to break yet another agreement? Call the police and tell them that they're threatening us? Wait until Anchorage gets melted?

Ken, that is why I think we need to give North Korea to China. China already has nuclear weapons. We have better relations with China (because they bought us out). China will do a lot better job cleaning out the country. No Americans will be sent to do the job. China is also looking for a way to reduce their population. This will give them a tiny but of land to spread out and also to test all their new military stuff. It will give us a chance to see how they use their new toys without being on the receiving end. And, at the end of the day, we will be left with the same amount of countries with nuclear capability and one less threat.

[Ken]

Your logic makes sense. So long as the Chinese agree to NEVER mess with South Korea. The regime in the North only understands raw power.

[BENESSE]

Don't know if you're kidding, FM (it is funny) but just in case you're not...
Last I recall, we don't own NC, so how would we exactly give it to China? In fact if China wanted it, China would take it without asking us for permission.
I'd say we've got bigger fish to fry right here at home and in few other locales where our people are paying with their lives for exactly nothing.

[finallyME]

Yes, mostly said tongue in cheek. I guess I am more curious as to why China hasn't already done it. Are we holding them back? Do they want a buffer, or an easily maintained thorn in our side? Can we at least just tell China that it is okay with us if they wanted to add a little land?

[crashdive123]

Don't know if you're kidding, FM (it is funny) but just in case you're not...
Last I recall, we don't own NC, so how would we exactly give it to China? In fact if China wanted it, China would take it without asking us for permission.
I'd say we've got bigger fish to fry right here at home and in few other locales where our people are paying with their lives for exactly nothing.

Actually we do own NC. I realize of course that some of 2D's antics have the politicians rethinking that. Now ---- NK on the other hand.

[BENESSE]

Good catch, Crash. Hey, maybe we can offer NC to China and throw in 2D as an incentive?

[2dumb2kwit]

Actually we do own NC. I realize of course that some of 2D's antics have the politicians rethinking that. Now ---- NK on the other hand.

I saw that, when she first posted it....but I didn't want to take the thread off topic.


(Hmmppff....I had to "go advanced", and put a smilie with this one!)

[2dumb2kwit]

Good catch, Crash. Hey, maybe we can offer NC to China and throw in 2D as an incentive?

Heck yeah! If they'll listen to me, I'll have that place straightened out in no time!!!

[crashdive123]

Heck yeah! If they'll listen to me, I'll have that place straightened out in no time!!!

That, and think of all the Chinese food you'll get.

[BENESSE]

Before we know it, 2D will be opening bbq rat franchises.

[2dumb2kwit]

Before we know it, 2D will be opening bbq rat franchises.

2dumb's
Whoflungwhat
restaurant

[BENESSE]

Yu So Dum
D I N E R

[2dumb2kwit]

Yu So Dum
D I N E R

Sweet!!! Can I use that?

[BENESSE]

What are friends for?

[2dumb2kwit]

What are friends for?

You forgot the space, between thwe Y and the u. LOL

[crashdive123]

Hung Chow?