Hunter shoots bear in its Den!

[Mtnman Mike]

I like your posts and figured you fell off the face of the earth until you posted this.

I should have made a farewell thread last early June just before I left for my mtn paradise / BOL / survival retreat.

And I guess I thought most who have seen much of what I post knew that I spend from June to Nov. every year since 1999, on my mtn place, camping, working and Living up there.

I have a link showing pics of it on my profile and the latest long pic thread with over 50 New pics is here > http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ad.php?t=14614

[randyt]

I came across something interesting last weekend.

I don't mean to pick at a wound but for the sake of higher learning or at least curiosity I would post this.

I was reading a book called Canadian Wilds by Martin Hunter. the book is circa 1900 and earlier. anyhoo there is a chapter in the describing a method of hunting bears by tracking the bear to it's den. It was considered a dangerous job and at least two people was recommended. I found it odd that here we have this thread and I come across this information. if ya get a chance to read this book it is interesting.

[BENESSE]

In 1900's they also used to "bleed" people to reduce fever. Just sayin'.

[2dumb2kwit]

In 1900's they also used to "bleed" people to reduce fever. Just sayin'.

And women knew their place!
(Snicker, snicker....love ya B!)

[Camp10]

And women knew their place!
(Snicker, snicker....love ya B!)

I'll speak well of you 2D!! Lol.

[Rick]

And men slept in the hay loft (they didn't have dog houses then).

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

And men slept in the hay loft (they didn't have dog houses then).

Ah..... those were the days. The smell of fresh manure drifting up to sooth the soul, and calm the psyche..... oh wait, that was just last week!!!

[BENESSE]

And women knew their place!
(Snicker, snicker....love ya B!)

They still do! Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.
(Who loves you, baby?!)

[2dumb2kwit]

They still do! Women who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.
(Who loves you, baby?!)

LOL...That's a good one!

[Supertramp]

i think he was ok in shooting the bear -the fact that he tracked it to the den and waited is just a nice tidbit to add.However i think it is safe to lose the mental picture of this guy crawling into a hole and killing the bear as most dens are actually quite shallow and i'm sure he just looked in and blasted -and if not...... the man is a fool either way
-what is the diff in wiring coons out of a hole in a tree or sending a ferret down a rabbit hole? what is the end means of hunting -to procure game for the table i figure

[Rick]

All of it is illegal here.

[Supertramp]

All of it is illegal here.

i stand corrected -i have heard about people doing that also but never knew the legalities

[Rick]

It is illegal to...
• Remove wild animals from any cavity or den;
• Disturb the den or nest of any animal by shooting, digging, cutting or chipping;
with the aid of smoke, fre, fumes, chemicals, ferret or other small animal; or with
any device introduced into the hole where the animal is sheltered
• Use or carry tree climbing or cutting equipment for the purpose of dislodging
an animal from a tree.

[rwc1969]

What if you shoot an animal and it dies, but gets lodged in the tree? Legal, illegal? Ethical, unethical?

[Rick]

I'd just pull the tree up, give it a good shake and let the animal drop out.

[rwc1969]

I tried that, the trees too big. I can't even shake it. But, it is climbable with gear.

[msudawgs56]

I do not think I would have gone in the den and killed it. Just my opinion.

[crashdive123]

I do not think I would have gone in the den and killed it. Just my opinion.

You could try this place http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...-Introductions It's not nearly as bad as the bear den.

[randyt]

I do not think I would have gone in the den and killed it. Just my opinion.

what I find interesting about this whole matter is according to the book I mentioned in a earlier post going into the den after a bear was not a preferred method. it was considered dangerous and a two man job. To read some of the replies it sounds like folks think it's like shooting fish in a barrel, not even close.

[EdD270]

Depends on how you define "wrong".
If you mean "legal" or "Illegal", then he apparently didn't violate any game or other laws or they would have charged him, so no harm, no foul.
If you mean "ethical", that's another thing entirely. I would never kill a bear in it's den unless necessary for true survival when I'm on the verge of starvation. I wouldn't kill a turkey on it's roost, either. But that's my own standards, and different folks have different strokes. If he's happy with it, I guess that's all that's necessary for him.