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    Thank you all. To be honest, there is so much to learn that I mostly see the mistakes made in building that...
    Rick: Yeah, there is 20mm overlap with each row. Just like viking boats... the first row is riveted to the keel, which is T shaped, the second row is riveted to the first and so on.
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    Thanks. I was looking at the second boat in the pictures, which has a smooth surface, and trying to figure out how you accomplished that with rivets. I decided there had to be overlap.

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    Actually we call it 'hand made'...
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    It looks like ship wrights are on the rise here lol. I have been building and designing touring kayaks from both ply and strips since 2001. Building another stitch and glue right now for my future son in law to take on a week long trip. I spend approx 400+ hours on the strip boats and mill every piece my self from rough sawn cypress and cedar. Oakumme for the ply wood yaks but I have started using ultraPly XL, much cheaper and is doing great. It the glue that is used to hold the plus that determines marine grade or not. Ultraply has passed the boil test so it's good to go.

    NCO I would love to be doing what you are but not any ship wright schools near by. Awesome boat as well and yes it is akin to your child being born to paddle or sail a craft you built and designed. Work hard brother and let the craft be he reward.
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    i haven't heard of anybody using oakum to caulk ply panels; how's it do? does the plywood even move much?
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    Oakum would be an easy make from natural ingredients. Pine tar and any plant used for cordage.
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    BS 1088 oakumme ply is all that is used in high-end stitch and glue kayaks. Nothing better and is what is also in most all kits you can purchase,however it's not cheap and the shipping cost run it up even more. That is why ultraply XL is such a good find for the avg builder. 20 bucks a sheet from lowes vs 40 plus 100 for shipping.
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    My Grandfather worked at Harvey Gamage Shipyard his entire life. It was wonderful to walk in to the assembly building that had the way's built into it for launching and see the craftsmanship that went into their finished products. If they were to ever open that small yard again, I would quit the shipyard I work at today to go there even for one day. Very nice job NCO

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    It is funny, from my point of view how the canoe is such a huge hit there.. I have tried some earlier in my life and i can see their advantages, but still when i think of a boat i think of a millenia old eastern-finnish design for one or two rowers, overlaping pine planks and the smell of pine tar...
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    lol you need to get out mor-ra lol its all good, the kayak is even a bigger hit than the canoe as of late. Damn yuppies!
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    hey now; there ain't nothing wrong with a kayak.
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    AWSOME craftsmenship, very nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canid View Post
    hey now; there ain't nothing wrong with a kayak.
    I hope there's not as those the only ones I build !

    NCO do you have more pics?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Erratus Animus View Post
    NCO do you have more pics?
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    Awesome! This is something I've always wanted to do, but never had the time or space to do it.

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    Finally, more, (and even one mora) pics!!

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    Is that you laying in the boat with a Mora? I never thought I'd see this day!!

    Boat looks good too!
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    Nice project, look forward to seeing more
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pocomoonskyeyes3 View Post
    Is that you laying in the boat with a Mora? I never thought I'd see this day!!

    Boat looks good too!
    Yes it is. And it has proven to be every bit as crappy as i remembered...
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