Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 81

Thread: My first boat[PIC heavy].

  1. #1
    WSF's official Mora hater NCO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sulkava, Finland
    Posts
    610
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default My first boat[PIC heavy].

    I currently study to become a boat builder, specializing in wooden boats made by traditional techniques. The first practice work at school is getting there nicely, so I thought to share with you few of the pictures I have taken along the way.

    The boat is actually being built from plywood as it is my first and high quality boat wood costs a small fortune. The school wouldn't want us to screw up hundreds of euros worth of good materials. We study by doing which is one thing I really love about the school. Of course, plywood is no where near as nice to work with as good boat wood is, but it is cheap and will do the job of teaching us the basics of small boat construction.

    I will be updating this thread as we make more progress so that you will see the different stages of the construction. At the moment we are on Christmas holiday and will return to work at 3rd of January.

    The boat we build is a 6.5m, six oar, three rower competition boat. It ought to be finished well before midsummer 2011.

    Here on the first picture we have the first pair(of planks) attached to the keel. The frames are there to guide the angles of the planks to go as desired. After the boards are done the frames will be removed and the ash(Fraxinus Excelsior) ribs will be installed.
    Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

    Riveting on the 2nd pair.
    Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

    Here we have both 1st and 2nd pair on and the 3rd pair in progress. The first two pairs were made from 9mm plywood and the rest will be made from 6.5mm plywood to cut down excess weight. This is a competition boat after all. All the planking is riveted by hand with copper rivets. We use Sikaflex-291 in between the seams.
    Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

    Here's where we are now. Fourth pair on, last pair to go. We'll be building this one with five pairs of planks.
    Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

    The stern from inside.
    Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.

    Towards the bow.
    Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.
    Guests can not see images in the messages. Please register in the forum.
    Survival is not about surviving AGAINST the nature. It's about surviving WITH the nature.

    You can't go in to nature, nature is not a place or an object. Nature just is. You are living it.


  2. #2
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Southern California, High desert
    Posts
    7,435

    Default

    Looking Good there Noah !

  3. #3
    WSF's official Mora hater NCO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sulkava, Finland
    Posts
    610
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    When you can fit a pair of elephants on that, give me a call, I'll hire you once I have my own boat building business... lol.
    Survival is not about surviving AGAINST the nature. It's about surviving WITH the nature.

    You can't go in to nature, nature is not a place or an object. Nature just is. You are living it.

  4. #4
    Senior Member BENESSE's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    Gotham
    Posts
    9,677

    Default

    That is really amazing, NCO! (what are the dimensions...21' long?)
    I look forward to watching your progress. Can't wait to see it on water.

  5. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2010
    Location
    Southern California, High desert
    Posts
    7,435

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by NCO View Post
    When you can fit a pair of elephants on that, give me a call, I'll hire you once I have my own boat building business... lol.
    lol,, ok

  6. #6
    reclinite automaton canid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Central California/West Texas
    Posts
    6,622

    Default

    a lot of people substitute decent grade exterior plywood for marine plywood, and to acceptable result. i don't know how you grade plywood, or if the grading system we use here is international, but AAX or ABX are free from defects on one side, and either free from defects, or free from any but minor defects on the other, with an acceptable core.

    i can't testify to that personally as i haven't done this yet, but i've seen a lot of boats using it.

    will you be caulking the planks or glassing the hull?

    That is looking like a fine boat; Thank you for sharing. Best of luck to you.
    Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice - Grey's Law.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    To see what's going on in my knife shop check out CanidArmory on Youtube or on Facebook.

  7. #7
    WSF's official Mora hater NCO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sulkava, Finland
    Posts
    610
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Going metric again, sorry. 6.5m long, 1.5m wide... cant remember the height by heart.

    The 9mm plywood is marine grade spruce plywood and the 6.5mm is outdoor grade birch plywood. ABX I think. I get lost in translation with technical terminology...

    For making it watertight we use the sikaflex. First spread a layer of it on the lower plank to the seam area. Then attach the next plank on it. I hope thats what you asked, canid. No glassing of this boat.
    Survival is not about surviving AGAINST the nature. It's about surviving WITH the nature.

    You can't go in to nature, nature is not a place or an object. Nature just is. You are living it.

  8. #8
    reclinite automaton canid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Central California/West Texas
    Posts
    6,622

    Default

    That is just what i was wondering, thank you. It sounds like just the ticket as long as you've got a little bit of headspace between planks. I don't think plywood moves nearly as much as board planking with moisture though, so I bet it's a minor concern.

    It's my understanding that marine plywood uses the same glue as outdoor. As I understand it, ABX means that the good face is grade 'A' (supposed to be free from imperfections), which the opposite face is grade 'B', allowed to have only minor imperfections and the core inside is 'X', meaning that they used whatever was handy, since it's a lot less important to integrity and doesn't have to be pretty.

    My knowledge of boat-building is mostly academic, so anybody with real experience could straighten me out if I'm off about anything.

    I hope you keep us updated as it comes along. It's a beautiful boat so far.
    Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice - Grey's Law.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    To see what's going on in my knife shop check out CanidArmory on Youtube or on Facebook.

  9. #9
    reclinite automaton canid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Central California/West Texas
    Posts
    6,622

    Default

    All my dreams lately have been filled with images like this:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvkWjQYzuCM
    Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice - Grey's Law.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    To see what's going on in my knife shop check out CanidArmory on Youtube or on Facebook.

  10. #10
    Super Moderator crashdive123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    North Florida
    Posts
    44,818

    Default

    Cool project NCO. Looking forward to your prgress. How many students are working on it - or does each student build their own?
    Can't Means Won't

    My Youtube Channel

  11. #11
    WSF's official Mora hater NCO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Sulkava, Finland
    Posts
    610
    Blog Entries
    2

    Default

    Canid, on the video, i know the feeling. one day on a boat i build with my own hands...

    Crash: two, me and one other. There is 10 students studying boat building. Rest 30 of our unit study carpentry. There is three boats and a canoe being made, and two students are at a local boat factory for fibreglass training.
    Survival is not about surviving AGAINST the nature. It's about surviving WITH the nature.

    You can't go in to nature, nature is not a place or an object. Nature just is. You are living it.

  12. #12
    Senior Member hunter63's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2009
    Location
    SE/SW Wisconsin
    Posts
    26,843

    Default

    Very cool.
    I like the old ways of doing things, kinda like following in your ancestors foot steps.
    Geezer Squad....Charter Member #1
    Evoking the 50 year old rule...
    First 50 years...worried about the small stuff...second 50 years....Not so much
    Member Wahoo Killer knives club....#27

  13. #13
    reclinite automaton canid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Central California/West Texas
    Posts
    6,622

    Default

    or oar-strokes.

    i'm watching the documentary on this right now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/programmes/vikingvoyage/

    it's inspirational.
    Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice - Grey's Law.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    To see what's going on in my knife shop check out CanidArmory on Youtube or on Facebook.

  14. #14
    Senior Member Camp10's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    Western PA
    Posts
    2,936

    Default

    Thats a great project! Nice work, I cant wait to see it finished as well.

  15. #15

    Default

    From what I've read that's a great boat.

  16. #16
    Senior Member huntermj's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Vermont
    Posts
    744
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default

    I've built a couple of small stitch and glue boats. Its the sanding that will drive a man mad.
    The difference between marine grade and outdoor grade plywood is marine grade plywood will be free of voids in the inner layers, a void can cause a structural weakness.
    Nice work NCO.
    I am so clever that sometimes I don't understand a single word of what I am saying.
    Oscar Wilde

    http://www.youtube.com/user/jimhuntermj21

  17. #17
    reclinite automaton canid's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2007
    Location
    Central California/West Texas
    Posts
    6,622

    Default

    i think it was a youtube video i watched where the builder said he spent about 500 hours on a boat, of which 450 was spent sanding and 30 spent looking for his pencil
    Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice - Grey's Law.
    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    To see what's going on in my knife shop check out CanidArmory on Youtube or on Facebook.

  18. #18
    Administrator Rick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Central Indiana
    Posts
    58,806

    Default

    Wow! I am genuinely impressed. You should be rightfully proud of that! I'm having some trouble visualizing what you are riveting to. Is there an overlap in the plank that ties row 1 and 2 together (for example)?
    Tracks Across the High Plains...Death on the Bombay Line...A Touch of Death and Mayhem...Dead Rock...The Griswald Mine Boys...All On Amazon Books.

  19. #19

    Default

    very inspiring.

  20. #20
    Administrator Rick's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Central Indiana
    Posts
    58,806

    Default

    My cousin had a boat he dubbed the Leakin' Leana. When he took it out he carried a coffee can of gasoline and some roofing tar. He'd mix some tar with the gas and fashion a plug to jab in the holes to keep it from sinking. He did about as much pluggin' as he did fishin'.
    Tracks Across the High Plains...Death on the Bombay Line...A Touch of Death and Mayhem...Dead Rock...The Griswald Mine Boys...All On Amazon Books.

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •