Living Off Grid...Really Off Grid

**Rick** · 08-30-2010, 08:37 AM

I agree. However, on the restraint thing, there are some folks still walking around that I wanted to choke the livin' .........

**BENESSE** · 08-30-2010, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by Rick

I agree. However, on the restraint thing, there are some folks still walking around that I wanted to choke the livin' .........

...for now.

**your_comforting_company** · 08-30-2010, 08:57 AM

I know.. I know... I'm a broken record...

Viruses are NEVER removed from your body. It can't be killed as it isn't technically a "living thing". Once you have the flu, you always have the flu. Your body just learns to make antibodies that keep the flu in check. When you get the flu, it's a new strain of flu for that year. Viruses mutate and adapt (read evolve) more quickly than anything else known to man.

How many cold and flu and other viruses have now been introduced into this population? Chickenpox? Measels? Polio? Bubonic? The Red Death (sorry.. a little Poe humor there)

Certainly all those of you who've come to know me here, know my stance on this subject and for fear of being obligatorily mean, I'll display some restraint, as uncommon as it is, and just say that we, as modern peoples, need to learn to leave well enough alone.

I'm not so sure I want to live to be 80 myself.. the whole diaper thing really turns me off.

**BENESSE** · 08-30-2010, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by your_comforting_company

I'm not so sure I want to live to be 80 myself.. the whole diaper thing really turns me off.

Don't knock it til you tried it. Just ask Rick.

**Old GI** · 08-30-2010, 09:48 AM

I give them one more generation; maybe two. "Do-gooders" doing the absolute worst!

**Rick** · 08-30-2010, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by YCC

Viruses are NEVER removed from your body.

Not true. If it were, then those not inoculated would contract small pox even today. Your body does destroy viruses and bacteria. Eats 'em up and spits 'em out. You can, of course, be invaded by that same virus many times over but your immune system will identify it, kill it and or the cells they inhabit, and dispose of it. That's why you only exhibit the symptoms of one type of cold. Once it's recognized, it's remembered and if encountered again, destroyed.

**BENESSE** · 08-30-2010, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Not true. If it were, then those not inoculated would contract small pox even today. Your body does destroy viruses and bacteria. Eats 'em up and spits 'em out. You can, of course, be invaded by that same virus many times over but your immune system will identify it, kill it and or the cells they inhabit, and dispose of it. That's why you only exhibit the symptoms of one type of cold. Once it's recognized, it's remembered and if encountered again, destroyed.

Well now, there might be exceptions. Herpes simplex 1 & 2 comes to mind. (fever blisters & genital)
Can't cure it, you can just ease the symptoms. It can go into remission but flareups do occur.

**NightShade** · 09-01-2010, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

The truth of the matter is they probably aren't all that keen about eating iguana every day. They'd probably like a bacon sandwich now and then.

I hope you are kidding... really...
Your whole post kinda stinks of an ethnocentric "we know better than them"
we have to "help" them to "make them better" attitude...
I don't know Rick, it seems awful presumptious and arrogant to me to assume that they must want to live more like us...
I realize that medical aid could help them, but you are only assuming they need it.
My Mom always said... "If it ain't broke, don't fix it!"

Rick, I respect you and usually agree with a lot of your posts.. To me, this one assumes too much and I couldnt disagree more.
I'm with YCC on this one.

**Justin Case** · 09-01-2010, 07:49 PM

Everybody likes bacon Sandwiches !!

**Rick** · 09-01-2010, 08:02 PM

Yeah, it was a joke. Of course, if there is no humor then the joke fell flat. Sorry.

**Rick** · 09-01-2010, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Benesse

Well now, there might be exceptions. Herpes simplex 1 & 2 comes to mind. (fever blisters & genital)
Can't cure it, you can just ease the symptoms. It can go into remission but flareups do occur.

Okay, okay. I'll give you that. There are some bugs that we carry around that we are not able to kill. Fortunately, those are not communicable diseases and that's what I was relating to. The post was about wiping out the tribe by outside contact. None of the Herpes viruses will do that.

**BENESSE** · 09-01-2010, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Okay, okay. I'll give you that. There are some bugs that we carry around that we are not able to kill. Fortunately, those are not communicable diseases and that's what I was relating to. The post was about wiping out the tribe by outside contact. None of the Herpes viruses will do that.

Actually they are communicable...but not lethal.

**Rick** · 09-01-2010, 08:19 PM

Party pooper.

**Batch** · 09-01-2010, 08:42 PM

The truth of the matter is they probably aren't all that keen about eating iguana every day. They'd probably like a bacon sandwich now and then.

Sides, they ain't got no iguana in that part of the world!

Course, I bet Rick hasn't tried a iguana bacon sandwich with 1000 Island dressing. Like I almost never say, don't knock it till you've fried it.

**Rick** · 09-01-2010, 08:46 PM

The iguana bacon thing was a joke. See, they don't actually eat iguana. They eat grubs and whatnot.

(marking dry humor off my list)

**NightShade** · 09-01-2010, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

The iguana bacon thing was a joke. See, they don't actually eat iguana. They eat grubs and whatnot.

(marking dry humor off my list)

ok... phew.. that makes me feel better Rick... I know you joke alot... really wasnt to sure about that one... I was thinking " gee, if Rick aint jokin here he's a real........"
My bad for missing the joke
!

**Rick** · 09-01-2010, 08:53 PM

Really, my only point there was there may be some benefit to the contact in terms of health care. Beyond that, I would think we can learn far more from them than they can from us.

**BENESSE** · 09-01-2010, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

Really, my only point there was there may be some benefit to the contact in terms of health care. Beyond that, I would think we can learn far more from them than they can from us.

Famous last words. But you know dang well it never stops there. In fact, give me one example when it did...just in case I forgot.