Discovery Channel - DUAL SURVIVAL

**Pocomoonskyeyes3** · 07-25-2010, 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by Sarge47

POCO: I can't figure out the make & model of Dave's knives, any input?

Just a wild guess... I could try and see if Dave could tell me for sure.But this is a youtube link to the "Pathfinder" knife that is produced for Dave by Blind Horse Knives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMzMDIOpFWM

This is a link to that model on BHK site.... $275 for that knife
http://www.blindhorseknives.com/pathfinder.htm

**TomChemEngineer** · 07-25-2010, 03:49 PM

Wow... 275 bucks for that BHK knife will buy 5 KaBars! At least 4. I thought my affinity for KaBar was a bad habit, but this makes it look like an economical alternative!

**Batch** · 07-25-2010, 04:46 PM

The guy in the video review said he doesn't plan to get his knife wet. And he is going to use the leather sheath on his 1095 knife because he doesn't want to ding up that handle.

Leave it in a display case on your wall at home then. Tell, people you take it out in to the wilderness. But, when you actually do get outside in the "wilderness". Take the Mora...

**BENESSE** · 07-25-2010, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by Pocomoonskyeyes3

This is a link to that model on BHK site.... $275 for that knife
http://www.blindhorseknives.com/pathfinder.htm

Don't know about the knife but boy, that was a cool way to start a fire in that video.

**Sarge47** · 07-25-2010, 06:47 PM

Yep, 4 Ka-bars or 8 Moras. It's only 1095 steel; for that much money I'd expect D-2 steel or some such. I guess it still beats the $700 "Bailey/Bear Grylls" knife Bear was trying to push.

**rwc1969** · 07-26-2010, 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Pocomoonskyeyes3

Welllll..... it is also realistic in the fact that no two people with Survival training are gonna' agree on everything. Including those of us here. It does a GREAT job in showing how differences can be put aside, to work on a common goal...surviving.

Ya, and they don't seem to get too bent out of shape when they "essentially" call each other idiots for the the things they say to or about each other, that, I enjoy.

**Pocomoonskyeyes3** · 07-26-2010, 01:01 AM

Originally Posted by rwc1969

Ya, and they don't seem to get too bent out of shape when they "essentially" call each other idiots for the the things they say to or about each other, that, I enjoy.

Yeah and they even hug when they are "rescued". I thought that was pretty realistic, I don't care if it WAS staged!!

**rwc1969** · 07-26-2010, 12:42 PM

At times they look they want to kick each other's butt, but they do make up. I've saw that look in both Dave and Cody's eyes.

**Old GI** · 07-27-2010, 08:40 AM

The AZ parachute episode was a good. I'm biased, but the producers could have made the sport jump a little more realistic, e.g. when i jumped near there, I had cut-offs and tee shirt under a jump suit with a knife and sure had boots on. Pretty good use of the parachute gear and very plausable scenario (I know, tour at Yuma Proving Ground jumping on the job and sport).

**Rick** · 07-27-2010, 10:24 AM

If God had wanted me to jump out of perfectly good aircraft he would have given me a wife that wears bigger boots and had a deeper voice. (she outranks me and is already mean enough).

**Pocomoonskyeyes3** · 07-27-2010, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

If God had wanted me to jump out of perfectly good aircraft he would have given me a wife that wears bigger boots and had a deeper voice. (she outranks me and is already mean enough).

I sure was glad I had the training when one "Perfectly good Airplane" Turned out to be a perfectly good "Let me outta' here!!" 2 engines out of 4 died and they couldn't land with us in it, without doing a "Crash-landing" (Not related in any way to our Crash being on a plane). I was really glad I had a 'chute, and knew how to use it. I loved jumping out of planes. But Never more than that day!!!

**Old GI** · 07-28-2010, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Pocomoonskyeyes3

I sure was glad I had the training when one "Perfectly good Airplane" Turned out to be a perfectly good "Let me outta' here!!" 2 engines out of 4 died and they couldn't land with us in it, without doing a "Crash-landing" (Not related in any way to our Crash being on a plane). I was really glad I had a 'chute, and knew how to use it. I loved jumping out of planes. But Never more than that day!!!

Now THAT brings back memories.

**BENESSE** · 07-29-2010, 08:40 AM

So I watched the show for the first time--the glacier episode in New Zealand.
First, I don't get why Cody's up there in shorts and socks only, I don't care what he usually wears elsewhere. Contrived.
No compass either.
No explanation of the way basic repelling gear really works. I don't have a clue, and Cody, by his own admission, didn't. So the ropes magically get wrapped just right and down they slide.
Then later, Cody makes a rope out of plant fibers but his fingers get in the way of showing the twisting technique. OK.
Both Cody and Dave keep getting wet but neither dries his clothes along the way. Huh?
On and on...the dots are too far apart to connect. I could have learned more if they took the time.
Entertaining though.
I know a bit more than I did before but was hoping for more substance...certainly more than Bear Grylls offered.
You guys might be a little biased given that Cody & Dave are "of the forums". JMO

**BENESSE** · 07-29-2010, 08:54 AM

So far in my book Les Stroud wins. At least he's filming himself. However, I will keep watching Dual S--there's always something to learn no matter what.

**Sarge47** · 08-20-2010, 11:50 PM

The finale was tonight, pretty good!

**Rick** · 08-21-2010, 10:13 AM

I give them an A+. It's television for sure but they did a pretty good job staying true to survival fact. I also liked the interaction between Dave and Cody. Really different personalities and they didn't pull many punches with each other. Made for some entertainment. May have been part of the show's design but I liked it. One of the better survival shows for sure.

**rwc1969** · 08-21-2010, 11:00 AM

I guess Les has a new show coming up on Discovery.

I can't seem to stay interested in any of these shows anymore, either I forget to watch or get distracted by something else if I do.

I saw Dave skewer a pirhana and I can't even recall what cody did...oh yeah he cooked it.

The shows just don't have enough info to keep me interested I guess. I'm looking to learn stuff and share ideas, not just watch someone else do it. I think the shows need more content and I favor Man, woman, wild over all the others as it now stands.

I'd like a show where they cover things top to bottom, like one episode for nothing but fire, another for navigation, another for wild food, etc. and really go into the details of it.

That's what makes YouTube, books and online pictorials so much better than any TV show. Not only do you avoid the distracting and attention breaking commercials, you have the opportunity share and learn things inside out, and actually interact with the audience and the producers, stars, what have you. That's limited with books, but at least the info is there.

I just feel like a zombie anymore when I watch TV, all the commercials, drama and stuff. It's like they're trying to re-write my mind. Except they're taking out the good stuff and replacing it with trash and garble.

You watch 20-30 minutes of show and another 20-30 of commercials and BS. And then before you know it the season is over and it's re-runs till the next blue moon.

I just can't maintain interest in something like that. 6 episodes is a season? What actually was covered in those long six hours?

**hunter63** · 08-21-2010, 11:18 AM

I watched last nite in self defense.
Week-ends are all DW's HGTV around here, (till football season), so I actually turned on Discovery last nite for revenge.
Normally I would watch these in my "shop" while puttering with something.

Anyway, I did enjoy the dug out construction, but looking at it seemed to me was a little too good for being burned out and shaped with a machete.

I do like the fact that everything doesn't work out as planned, (is that planned?), but does give the impression that things don't always work in life, as well.