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    exactly. the good advice that keeps getting swept under the rug in this thread.

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    I got this as a Birthday gift when I was like.... 8? I barely actually use it, it's more of a "show" knife than anything (its very very sharp, but I prefer keeping it on my counter so when my friends come over they can be amazed )
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    Assassin Pilot... Do you know the history of that knife ??
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    My bladed gear, for now anyways, consists of a Cold Steel Magnum Khukri, a Frost fixed blade (not sure what model, but it's full tang and has a finger ring built into the blade at the base of the handle. Rather nice and very sturdy), a cheaper skinner with similar ring, and a small hunting knife. I'm not sure what brand, they're pretty cheap and made from so tough of steel that they're hard to keep sharp. So, those two will be replaced.

    What I'm going to be adding to my gear is a pair of Valiant Co. Golok Kembars that fit into the same sheath with one another(like butterfly swords), a Cold Steel SK-5 Gurkha Khukri, a Cold Steel Bird and Trout knife to replace my cheap skinner, a Cold Steel Finn Bear, a Finn Wolf(new for 2008) One of which will replace my cheap hunter, then the other for backup. Then I'll cap it all off with a Cold Steel Rajah folder(also new for 2008) which is a khukri folder.

    I'm quite a fan of Cold Steel, if you aren't able to tell. I'd also like to mention that they now make "Survival" sheaths for their Latin style machetes, which would fit any other brands machete of the same shape as long as the blades are 18" or 24" I'm a pretty fit individual, and if I'm going out anywhere, my tools are the most important to me, so the added weight from carrying 8-10 blades is not a hassle for me. Shoot, I'm only 23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smok View Post
    Assassin Pilot... Do you know the history of that knife ??
    No I do not. Please do tell. I thought it was just any regular Marttiini knife that my grandma got me. No one told me it was special

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    it is this knife btw: http://www.marttiini.fi/puukot/shop/...asp?ContID=224
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    Right on about my style of knife, FVR those knives rock, don't forget I go nowhere without my hawk either. And there is none up on the knife preference of Traxx.
    Ahh FVR wanna sell the top one
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    Im in between knives right now latley I have been using my colt commbat commander.
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    AP ...That is not what I meant by history . I meant the Puukot as that is what the knife is called and it has quite a history and you being from Finland I would thank you of all of us on here would now about it . But I am sorry that you do not , they're some great story's
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    Here try this.
    http://www.puukkoknife.com/
    Here's a tid bit on them.
    Puukkojunkkari (name for 19th century thugs in South Ostrobothnia) is a family business in Finland's "puukko making capitol", Kauhava. They take a great pride of their name and honor Ostrobothnia's long history of knife making. The Finnish sheath-knife and its use were traditionally associated with the customs of communities. It became almost a national symbol during the Second World War, when the knife industry flourished. The Härmä (South Ostrobothnian) puukko knife is an important element of local history. The Härmä knife was associated with the history of the "häjyt" or "puukkojunkkarit" (troublemakers) of Härmä, knife fights and the heyday of knife-bearing thugs around the middle of the 19th century. During its history, the Härmä knife has evolved from a utility knife to a gift item and collectible. Its reputation has partly been maintained by the symbolic values attached to it. The Härmä knife was once regarded as the weapon of the häjyt, but also as a symbol of the home region and the spirit of South Ostrobothnia. Today It is the hunting and carving knife of choice for many Finns in this historic area. South Ostrobothnians are still known of their self-motivation, pride and self-determination along with their craftsmanship. Leuku is a Finnish word for a knife used mostly by Lapland (Northern Finland) people, Sámi. It is a very versatile knife, developed from the needs of the reindeer herder-lifestyle of the Sámi people. They are all-purpose knives rather than woodworking knives. The handles are typical of those used in the far North. They provide a solid grip for the draw strokes that are favored where the hands are often gloved, or stiff with cold. The wide flat pommel allows the use of the second hand to apply force to the point. The sheaths take almost the entire handle, which is a reflection of how serious a lost leuku can be in the wilderness.
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    In World War II the Germans leaned to fear the knife as will.. A small group of men cross country skied I do not know how many miles and killed many Germans with just the Pukka ..I wish I could remember more of the story but I was schooled in the USA so that is all you get
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    Yes indeed, very good selections
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    Wow, I never knew about the history of the knife like that. I knew knives were used in Finland a lot during WWII, but I didn't know that they were used as a primary weapon. I've heard stories of people using molotov-cocktails to stop tanks and shotguns as sniper rifles, but never of people using the knife to kill.

    btw guys, "puukko" means "knife" in Finnish. People don't associate it w/ any brand (just like how Americans no longer associate "band-aid" with the brand). Yeah
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    Okay, I'm confused again. Finland sided with the Germans in WWII. They fought WITH the axis against Russia in the Continuation War (their term not mine). Are you talking about Lapland? The Lapland War only lasted 7 months during late 44, early 45.
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    Equally confused...is this thread about knives? Cuz I was just wondering if anyone heard from kid coteau lately...that guy had some pretty kick a@@ knives and a few new people have been asking....
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Okay, I'm confused again. Finland sided with the Germans in WWII. They fought WITH the axis against Russia in the Continuation War (their term not mine). Are you talking about Lapland? The Lapland War only lasted 7 months during late 44, early 45.
    There were 3 wars Finland was in during WWII:
    1st Winter War (finn vs ussr)
    2nd Constitutional War (finn + nazi vs ussr)
    3rd Lapland War (finn vs nazi)

    So Finland fought on all sides at one point, including the neutral side
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    must be a real bi*ch fighting on the neutral side...threaten everyone equally? beat yourself up?...how does that work?
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    Well I don't mean literally fighting, but I mean basically saying "whoever enters this country gets F'ed in the A"
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    Anyone who knows what they are talking about will tell you that a good survival knife is the single most important peice of survival gear you can purchase. Although the knife you bought looks nice it would not be a knife that I would have purchased. Like many other things the more you pay the better you will get. Out of any peice of survival gear that you buy, I would suggest you spend the most on a good survival knife, and if you are on a budget, then I suggest you save untill you can afford a good knife. There are many good knives out there. I just purchased a Buck Strider Solution model 888 for $230. It is a very strong solid knife. Another good knife is the RAT-5. RAT makes numerous models. Also keep in mind that you dont want anything to big. 4 to 6 inches is the perfect blade length. You also want to make sure your knife has whats called a full tang. This basically means that the blade and handle is one solid peice and the blabe is not attached to the handle. With a full tang, if your handle ever breaks, the knife is still useable, you can wrap twine, are tape around the tang. And with this said you also want to stay away from knives with hollow handles. As far as blades go,there are two main types of steel used in making high quality survival knives:

    Stainless Steel knife blades are rust resistant and work especially well in wet environments. They require less care than the carbon steel knives. Drawbacks to using stainless steel in knives is that they tend to be more expensive, are more difficult to sharpen, and may not hold an edge as well.
    Carbon Steel knife blades will rust if not used regularly or coated. Many feel carbon bladed knives hold an edge better than their stainless steel counterparts. I also suggest to stick to a plain edge, serrations are harder to sharpen in a survival situation, where as a plain edge can be sharpened if need be on a stone are peice of concrete. Some other good canidates are the Buck 119 Special (which is only about $50), the SOG knives are good, the Buck Night Hawk and there are many many more. But like I said before, my top 2 favs are the Buck Strider Solution, and the RAT-5. Incase you are anyone else is wondering I am new to this forum, but have been using knives for many years. I have been in the Army for 9 years, and I am an avid outdoorsman and survivalist. Hope this helps out. Good luck and have fun!
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    Sorry, Chop, I don't agree on your price = quality theory. Do a search on here and you'll find a LOT of excellent knives that are very inexpensive. You can pick up a Frost Knife by Mora for less than $20 bucks and you couldn't find a much better knife. The same is true with other survival gear. I just paid less than $2.00 for my metal match and the list goes on. If you like those knives then more power to you. But $230 will buy my pack and gear and all of it will be high quality.
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    Everyone is entitled tp there opinion. An this particular post as far as money equals quality I stated was for the knife. I agree with you as far as there is plenty of other gear out there as far as packs and flashlights etc, that you can get for bargin deals. And I didnt say that the only good knives are $230. I simply stated and feel strongly from experiance that when buying a knife, being that it is the most important peice of survival gear you will ever own, that the more you spend, the higher quality you will get. The Buck Solution was my personal preference, but as you stated there are less expensive options out there. When it comes down to it, its what ever the individual feels comfortable with.

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