Discovery Channel - DUAL SURVIVAL

[Rick]

I'm thinking the cigarettes were for afterwards. Just my thought.

[finallyME]

Yeah, Dave and Cody didn't have a choice of what they got in the pack. I am sure the contents would have been much different if they had a choice.

[Old GI]

I sincerely hope that some of the melodrama was hollywood driven. I don't see either one of them acting in some of the ways in the show. Oh, don't get me wrong, I've learned quite a bit from it (unlike a certain other show, Bear). Another example of a "reality" show that gets mired in the soap opera mode in Top Shot. Whoever thinks up their shooting tables is very effective and creative, but the ego and whining distracts adversely.

[rwc1969]

I can see Dave getting wrapped up in it more than Cody, just based on personality and style alone. He wants to do some bear stuff, you know he does.

[Batch]

Swamped was a lot more like the areas I hunt, camp and ride.

Dave played with the gator too long. Also, it can be real tough to sever the spinal column on a gator. They tighten up and it is damn near impossible to get the blade through. I had to hammer the blade through the bone. I noticed they cut away a couple of time and wondered if he didn't have the same problem.

Also, lots of people take the tail meat like Dave did. There is a tenderloin of meat that I can pretty much pull out with my bare hands and it is very lean with out all that skunky fat. Kinds like the back strap. Then you have a simular cut inside the body cavity. Then I go for the jowls next. I try to stay away from the fat in a gator.

Liked the show. Learned a way to make an improvised gig. Looked like cypress Cody made the bow drill with. I'll be trying cypress soon.

[Rick]

I think Cody said Dave told him cypress was good for the firebow. If Cody had sent me off to get food and I had crossed that gator you would have known it. I would be the one screamin' like a girl and running a muck through the swamp. My swamp bed would have been about 30 feet up one of those oaks!!

[rebel]

I had no idea who Cody Lundin was before this show. Sorry Sarge but, Cody seems gay to me.

[Rick]

Mom! Mom! Rebel said Cody seems gay!!!!

But he is a happy person, dear.

Oh, yeah.

Now, go watch your show.

[Justin Case]

LOL LOL

[Sarge47]

I had no idea who Cody Lundin was before this show. Sorry Sarge but, Cody seems gay to me.

Why apologize to me? I just like his book! Besides, I think Dave is the "Butch" one.

[pgvoutdoors]

I think the show is really good, it's the best on TV. It's entertaining but with a lot of info. I wouldn't endorse everything they do, you have to know your limits. Both Dave and Cody have unique styles and their diversities make for great learning.

I like the idea of having more woodskills shows on TV. Many of us agree that Americans are starting to lose those skills. I asked a ten-year-old the other day about Daniel Boone and Davy Crockett, he had no idea what I was talking about.

[Old GI]

I have borrowed a motto for dealing with gators --- "RUN, FOREST, RUN!!!!!"

[TomChemEngineer]

OK, I just watched the 4 episode rerun of this show yesterday. In Laos, Cody was constantly getting his feet injured. In the Peru desert, Cody put on a pair of flip flops because he was hobbling around getting his feet cut up on rocks, and I thought he might be getting the idea that shoes are a pretty standard Prep item. I didn't see the socks-on-a-glacier one... but he is clearly smart enough to know to guard against exposure... clothing is one of the big ones that we learned in grade school- food/ water, clothing/shoes, shelter. I don't know why this bothers me so much... he could have cut up a part of the tire to make sandals and avoid all that potential infection right from the beginning. Get cuts (and infections) in the bush and things get bad quickly, so whatever can be done to take care of yourself is generally a pretty good thing. Guess I'm just being anal retentive, but intentionally going without shoes in hostile environments goes against the self-preservation attitude/ common sense. Wanna stay in touch with the earth, dig a cathole. OK, I'll stop obsessing now..maybe.

[Justin Case]

Other Primates don't wear shoes ,,, just sayin

[TomChemEngineer]

Agreed, we split with other primates something like 100,000 years ago because we were smarter (in theory) and could use tools better... to better take care of ourselves. Other primates don't know about shoes... or shorts, shirts, or Bic lighters, or firesteels, or backpacks. The shoeless thing is a distraction to the real message that could be coming across... and at best (to me) just shows a lack of preparation, and seems to be ignoring the "improvise to survive" message. In his native Arizona, it is probably fine in most locations (but I've been really cold in northern Arizona, and glad I had boots, too). In Nova Scotia or Peru or pointy-bamboo-ridden Laos, maybe not. The socks and the flip flops show that he recognizes it. Anyway, it is more about my OCD nature than a real problem I guess, so I'll hush... maybe.

[Justin Case]

Yes, I know what you mean, and i agree,, I was just thinking that primates have feet very much like Humans and they seem to do fine without shoes, I know the Human foot will callous quickly if you run around barefoot all the time,, anyway, it was just a thought

[Pocomoonskyeyes3]

Welllll..... I think it funny that you would point out Cody's knife.... But not notice that Dave also had his knife......
I just think it's fair to assume, that Like us, They are NOT going into these situations without their preferred blade at their side... Now some of you that can knap might, but I can't knap, so I'm taking a blade EVERYWHERE the law will allow. Several....If I can.

Now, even National Geographic "stages" things, but only for the sake of preserving time. In Realm of the Alligator the 'Gator eating a snake was staged. I know this for a fact because I worked in the Okefenokee where it was filmed.... They even had to get more snakes for the 'Gator to eat because of all the takes they had to do, to get it right..... There was a guy in a tree with a bag of snakes. Does it make it less factual or less entertaining? Not to me....

I have worked with Camera crews while in the Okefenokee.... Before the Travel Channel there was a segment on CNN called "Travel Guide". I worked with a crew for 2 days....for a 15 minute segment. IMO some of the best stuff was left out. Oh well, I'm not the Editor.

My Point? Just that there are many "behind the scenes" shots that we will never know about. That there are some things WE would not do if we were put in Cody's or Dave's shoes...... Well Dave's anyway, since Cody doesn't wear them.

Personally? I love the show. I think it is the best one Discovery has done to date, on the subject of survival. I know Dave from a couple of other "Internet Sites". Can't say I know Cody though. I think that Discovery chose very well in choosing these two.... I believe that both "Survival Philosophies" have some very valid points. The friendly Banter is entertaining, you know all that contention about the whole Barefoot thing? But it is also realistic in the fact that no two people with Survival training are gonna' agree on everything. Including those of us here. It does a GREAT job in showing how differences can be put aside, to work on a common goal...surviving.

[crashdive123]

Now some of you that can knap might, but I can't knap, so I'm taking a blade EVERYWHERE the law will allow. Several....If I can.

I'm pretty good at napping.

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[Sarge47]

I liked Cody's threat to filter the water through the crotch of his shorts if Dave didn't stop griping about the water quality.

Dave showed how to use a digital watch in conjunction with an altimeter to find South. For those of you that don't sky-dive, here's an easier way: Using a paper & pencil or pen, simply draw an analogue watch face on the paper with the current time that's displayed on your digital watch; then point the hour hand of your drawing towards the sun & you have the same thing.

POCO: I can't figure out the make & model of Dave's knives, any input?

[Justin Case]

well, Cody didnt have his trusty knife with him in the AZ episode, he had to make one from a rock, then he cut the cactus with the rock knife, Personally, I would have borrowed Daves , LOL .and Dave managed to travel 2 days and 10 miles without water to find Cody, and he didn't even look thirsty ...hmmm, Welcome to Hollywood,,