Discovery Channel - DUAL SURVIVAL

[doug1980]

Hey thanks, I hope you don't mind that I use it. I thought it was a great idea to have a patch. Might have to get one made up to sew on a shirt.

[Sarge47]

Not a bad show. The only trouble I had with it was the clash of personalities. There was as much about that as there was about the skills each were bringing to the situation.

In order to avoid the possibility of that happening here, why don't you hike over to the "Intro" section and tell us about yourself; the Sticky at the top of the page has a "cut & Paste" template to help you, thanks. Here's where it's at:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...aysprune=&f=14

[woodsman86]

I watched the show on YouTube last night. I thought it was pretty good and something new. Showing him actually hunting and killing was pretty cool. I wish they would have done the show without the camera crew though; it really takes away from it. I always thought SurvivorMan was a better because his crew wasn't following him the whole time. It should be interesting to see where they go next and shoeless part is just wild.

[rwc1969]

I hope the show focuses more on skills and getting thru rather than on drama and conflict among it's hosts in the future.

In reality tv folks like drama that for some reason sells and makes the advertisers happy. This show has all the makings of becoming total drama island. I feel the conflict and drama can be a good thing as that's part of living and surviving as well, and there's more than one way to skin a cat as we all know, but I hope they don't get carried away with it.

I did like the show, but was left a little jaded by the Bear Grylls type disclaimer about cody and dave having fake sitiuations presented to them for filming purposes. After reading the disclaimer and seeing Dave catch the porky I wonder if they had the thing hog tied for hours before drugging and releasing it so Dave could whack it with the paddle. Hopefully not!

[Justin Case]

I am wondering why there was a porcupine on a little island surrounded by water ?

[COWBOYSURVIVAL]

I am wondering why there was a porcupine on a little island surrounded by water ?

I wondered the same thing...they did make sure to show the trees where they had been feeding. I think it was staged too. It is TV so didn't expect less. Do I think Dave could do it. Yes I do, be hard to get on film though.

[Justin Case]

I wondered the same thing...they did make sure to show the trees where they had been feeding. I think it was staged too. It is TV so didn't expect less. Do I think Dave could do it. Yes I do, be hard to get on film though.

yeah, a few posts up i posted a link to Cody's site, he talks about stuff being staged, He didnt like that,,

[Sarge47]

I enjoyed watching the conflict between the two for several reasons:

1.) It made it real! Try putting two of this group, or more, together in a survival situation & watch the sparks fly!

2.) It added to "Survival Training" as those in the situation must learn to get along with others, even if they disagree with them!

3.) It demonstrated the different methods and thought patterns that even experts can have. Apparently not all Survival teachers think alike.

Of course this show isn't "that real!" Insurance regs alone will guarantee that neither of the two guys come to any harm. Also, this was an "instructional" program to teach how to survive in that particular geographical area, not a documentary on a real situation.

[Batch]

I have decided that as long as the tactics are good, that I don't care if its staged.

I like Les, but, toting all of that camera equipment around?

How about this, what if Cody carried the camera half the time and Dave carried the other half?

I look at it this way. I can go out in the woods and try and survive with just a knife for a period of time.

Nothing to say that my brother and son couldn't go with me and just camp as the normally would. I am the one testing myself.

Hell, I could hear traffic in some of Dave's videos. But, the information he gave was good despite his not being in a wilderness situation.

I'm gonna be watching the show. That I know!

[Sarge47]

Here is what Cody Lundin had to say about the show , http://codylundin.com/survive_tv.html

Great link, Justin, thank you!

And: "Touting “edit room survival skills” as real survival skills can kill real people in real survival scenarios. In fairness to the networks, anyone who bases their preparedness program on a television show should probably leave the gene pool anyway. Does watching a football game on TV mean you know how to throw a football? In like fashion, watching a program or reading a book on survival doesn’t mean you know how to deal with a survival scenario." So sayeth Cody Lundin(Lun-deen), Survival expert, author, etc.. Amen, Cody, Amen!

[klkak]

I am wondering why there was a porcupine on a little island surrounded by water ?

Porcupines eat tree bark and swim very well. I find them on islands in Prince William sound all the time.

[Sarge47]

Porcupines eat tree bark and swim very well. I find them on islands in Prince William sound all the time.

That answers that! Thanks Kevin, it is much appreciated!

For those who would like to read Rick's great review of Cody's book: "98.6 Degrees..." along with a continuing side-bar where Cody answered a question from Rick regarding a point in his book via an e-mail to me, peruse this:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...blog.php?b=120

[hunter63]

I watch the first one as well, and being kinda "in the bush". (LOL, have TV but no inter-web), and I enjoyed it as well.

As I know some is staged, I still enjoyed it, and don't know how you would a totally unstaged show, and it is a "show".
Not to much to watch, if it was just 2 guys hunkered down and not doing anything.

Couple of things, I did noticed, after I go passed the sock feet in the snow........Never come back to camp with out fire wood, and don't eat anything you don't know, if you get sick, you are screwed.

I will keep watching, and hpoe the comlement each other.

[Sarge47]

Last week I sent an e-mail to Cody Lundin regarding how much I enjoyed him, David, and the show; here's the response I just received a few minutes ago:

"Hi Rick,
We are just back from Brazil in airport, last one in the can. Would like to rest but need to teach into the end of the month. Say hi to your gang!
Cody"

No rest for the weary, huh? This guy's a "class act."

[Justin Case]

I'll bet he wears shoes when he travels, "No shirt No Shoes no service"

[crashdive123]

I'll bet he wears shoes when he travels, "No shirt No Shoes no service"

If he does, I'll bet they are open toed.

[Justin Case]

Dual Survival "Failed Ascent" Playlist youtube

This is the second episode,
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...B0276823C8219C

[Sarge47]

It will also probably be replayed today or this evening so check the "lineup." I thought this one was interesting due to several facts:

1.) Cody STILL not wearing anything on his feet but socks...even while on top of a glacier.

2.) Catching the eel! There was even an underwater camera showing that the eel actually bit on the bait, which was encased in one of Cody's socks! Poor eel, I thought "stink" bait was only used for Carp & Catfish.

3.) Poor Dave having to eat live grubs & raw fish.

4.) The trust each had to place in each other to get through the whole thing, that speaks volumes to me!

Note to self, stay out of the mountains in New Zealand!

[Justin Case]

Cody is Funny,, I got a kick out of him when they seen the Birds flying high overhead, Dave said "we must be near their nest" Cody said " I don't Care, If they come down here I'm gonna Eat em" LOL

[Sarge47]

Cody is Funny,, I got a kick out of him when they seen the Birds flying high overhead, Dave said "we must be near their nest" Cody said " I don't Care, If they come down here I'm gonna Eat em" LOL

Yeah, he's so practical!