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    Quote Originally Posted by HeritageFarm View Post
    This is futile.
    Why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeritageFarm View Post
    This is futile.
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    Alrighty then. What's the best survival knife?
    A sharp tongue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeritageFarm View Post
    Permaculture is a farming practice that mimics nature... To a certain extent. The object of farming is to make a profit - do we have to sacrifice the land to do it? Do you want to kill to live comfortably? Do you want your children to live in a nuclear waste dump because you refused to not live in way that protected the Earth? When you are a Steward of Nature, your job is to protect - not to kill! That's what improper farming practices are doing - they are killing the environment! I just got an EPA newsletter where they sued a CAFO for water pollution!
    I also choose to live comfortably - in ways that have less damage to Earth.
    I reject your premise. It's not an all or nothing deal. If I want an extra ear of corn, with dinner, it's not going to create a wasteland. Nuclear power doesn't make the world a waste dump. And yes I will kill. I'll kill a pig and have BBQ, bacon, and lard. I'll kill a striper and throw it on the grill with butter, garlic, and some dill.

    I can sit here and show you how many people get fed, because of companies like cargill, but I don't think it would do any good. I could show you things that they are doing to protect the environment, but would you listen?

    Oh, and as far as the EPA goes.....they do some good, but I have seen them really screw things up. Just because they say something, doesn't make it so, to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Why?

    Hello, welcome to Massachusetts!

    "Since our first cranberry crop was harvested in 1816, Massachusetts has become a leading producer, representing 35% of the world's cranberries. That's pretty impressive when you consider that 70% of our state's growers are small family farms with less than 20 acres of bogs. We take a lot of pride in our cranberry heritage. In fact, we've made it our official state berry and color, and cranberry juice the official state drink." http://www.oceanspray.com/heritage/
    I only wish OceanSpray didn't add so much sugar to their juices or play with words when it comes to describing actual fruit content. They don't have to do it but they do to save $$$. I should know, I'm in the biz that plays with words and the consumer is too dumb to care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit View Post
    And yes I will kill. I'll kill a pig and have BBQ, bacon, and lard. I'll kill a stripper and throw it on the grill with butter, garlic, and some dill.
    Honestly, I didn't know that about you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    I only wish OceanSpray didn't add so much sugar to their juices or play with words when it comes to describing actual fruit content. They don't have to do it but they do to save $$$. I should know, I'm in the biz that plays with words and the consumer is too dumb to care.
    Ever eat an unsweetened cranberry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BENESSE View Post
    I only wish OceanSpray didn't add so much sugar to their juices or play with words when it comes to describing actual fruit content. They don't have to do it but they do to save $$$. I should know, I'm in the biz that plays with words and the consumer is too dumb to care.
    B - If you want unsweetened cran, try this http://www.mountainsun.com/products/juice.php It's a concentrate - one bottle will make 2 gallons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit View Post
    I reject your premise. It's not an all or nothing deal. If I want an extra ear of corn, with dinner, it's not going to create a wasteland. Nuclear power doesn't make the world a waste dump. And yes I will kill. I'll kill a pig and have BBQ, bacon, and lard. I'll kill a striper and throw it on the grill with butter, garlic, and some dill.

    I can sit here and show you how many people get fed, because of companies like cargill, but I don't think it would do any good. I could show you things that they are doing to protect the environment, but would you listen?

    Oh, and as far as the EPA goes.....they do some good, but I have seen them really screw things up. Just because they say something, doesn't make it so, to me.
    Ohhhhhhhhh. You said striper. Nevermind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    Ever eat an unsweetened cranberry?
    Yeah, but adding virtually 20 teaspoons of sugar per serving?
    I buy unsweetened (organic brand) then add Stevia to taste.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit View Post
    I reject your premise. It's not an all or nothing deal. If I want an extra ear of corn, with dinner, it's not going to create a wasteland. Nuclear power doesn't make the world a waste dump. And yes I will kill. I'll kill a pig and have BBQ, bacon, and lard. I'll kill a striper and throw it on the grill with butter, garlic, and some dill.

    I can sit here and show you how many people get fed, because of companies like cargill, but I don't think it would do any good. I could show you things that they are doing to protect the environment, but would you listen?

    Oh, and as far as the EPA goes.....they do some good, but I have seen them really screw things up. Just because they say something, doesn't make it so, to me.
    Cargill? Protect the environment? Now there's a laugh. And by 'kill', I meant the environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeritageFarm View Post
    Of what? of What?
    Of cargill, of Cargill .

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    The thing that really ticks me off is they put that stinkin' cranberry juice on my 20 teaspoons of sugar! Grrrrrrrrr.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeritageFarm View Post
    Cargill? Protect the environment? Now there's a laugh. And by 'kill', I meant the environment.
    Actually they DO protect the environment,, all over the world !

    SEE > http://www.bing.com/search?setmkt=en...ts+environment

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    I think Coot would call this a skunk smellin' contest or something like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Case View Post
    Actually they DO protect the environment,, all over the world !

    SEE > http://www.bing.com/search?setmkt=en...ts+environment
    Oh wow. Now that I've seen that, I completely trust Cargill. Who else to tell me lies but Cargill themselves? Since Cargill came up on most those results, it's more than suspicious. Never trust what a big company tells you. That's why ads never work on me: I'm too friggin smart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeritageFarm View Post
    Oh wow. Now that I've seen that, I completely trust Cargill. Who else to tell me lies but Cargill themselves? Since Cargill came up on most those results, it's more than suspicious. Never trust what a big company tells you. That's why ads never work on me: I'm too friggin smart.
    ...but you'll believe what extreme left, communist, corporation haters say.
    I guess you're just too friggin' smart, for me to debate with. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeritageFarm View Post
    Oh wow. Now that I've seen that, I completely trust Cargill. Who else to tell me lies but Cargill themselves? Since Cargill came up on most those results, it's more than suspicious. Never trust what a big company tells you. That's why ads never work on me: I'm too friggin smart.
    Beefing Up Renewable Energy In Guelph McGuinty Government Supporting Food Processors, Protecting Environment

    An alternative electricity generation plant fuelled by a unique renewable agricultural resource is in the early planning stages in Guelph.

    http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...010/043010.htm


    Our partnership with Cargill, Inc. is focused on integrating biodiversity considerations into their business activities.

    Cargill has participated as a founding member of the corporate consultative group providing critical support and input into the development of the Integrated Biodiversity Assessment Tool (IBAT) for business. This tool ...
    http://www.conservation.org/discover...s/Cargill.aspx

    Spinning plastic from corn - Promise of more sustainable products drives Cargill Dow

    Petroleum-based plastic is used in just about every modern manufactured product. Cars, clothing, packaging — all have some form of plastic in them. But petroleum is getting expensive, and isn’t always easy on the environment. Around the world, growing ...
    http://farmindustrynews.com/news/far..._plastic_corn/

    ETC, ETC, ETC, The List goes on and on, NONE of the few links I provided above are from Cargill,

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    The good news is oil is a renewable resource. All it takes is massive global extentions that wash all life into the ocean where in congeals for 350,000 years and you have a fresh supply of oil. The only solution I see coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Case View Post
    Beefing Up Renewable Energy In Guelph McGuinty Government Supporting Food Processors, Protecting Environment

    An alternative electricity generation plant fuelled by a unique renewable agricultural resource is in the early planning stages in Guelph.

    http://www.omafra.gov.on.ca/english/...010/043010.htm


    Our partnership with Cargill, Inc. is focused on integrating biodiversity considerations into their business activities.

    Cargill has participated as a founding member of the corporate consultative group providing critical support and input into the development of the Integrated Biodiversity Assessment Tool (IBAT) for business. This tool ...
    http://www.conservation.org/discover...s/Cargill.aspx

    Spinning plastic from corn - Promise of more sustainable products drives Cargill Dow

    Petroleum-based plastic is used in just about every modern manufactured product. Cars, clothing, packaging — all have some form of plastic in them. But petroleum is getting expensive, and isn’t always easy on the environment. Around the world, growing ...
    http://farmindustrynews.com/news/far..._plastic_corn/

    ETC, ETC, ETC, The List goes on and on, NONE of the few links I provided above are from Cargill,
    PR, man, PR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit View Post
    ...but you'll believe what extreme left, communist, corporation haters say.
    I guess you're just too friggin' smart, for me to debate with. LOL

    You have fun, with your....or their, agenda.
    It wasn't a debate. I did all the talking and you just disagreed, never defended your position, because you didn't have one. Quite frankly I've had better debates with 14 yr olds.

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