Survival kits info.

[Sarge47]

...I like the Condom with the Viagra; nice touch. The piece of pencil is to write your will. Seriously though, why are we always "downsizing" important gear? Is this a Survival kit for "Yuppies"? I prefer a day-pack-sized SK if I'm any where out in the woods, even with my car nearby.

[Beo]

This ain't 10,000 years ago and way I remember it the 300 Spartans lost. Is that lil thing a joke, come on maybe good for GI Joe (kung fu grip included) but wouldn't last a day in the wilderness even in lil ole Ohio.

[Tony uk]

I try to carry two survival kits, One is a backpack size and then other in a small tin, Also i carry on my person essential items, Compass, map (THE two most important things, knowing your way means not getting lost in the first place) phone, firesteel, some tinder (Charcloth, but cotten balls in petrolium jelly work nice), First aid kit, Whistel (Underated by newbies) and of course kinfe and so on,,,

[Rick]

Go back and read through this thread:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1256

You have a good start but you need a lot more. Greece doesn't have frigid weather but you need a backup to your matches and some other items as well. Read through the post linked above and see if you can't come up with some ideas.

[Sarge47]

Hey! Maybe Ranger Rick might like this thing if he puts the razor blades back in! Who was it that posted pictures on this site where they cut the crap out of there hand with a razor-blade? If memory serves me right it was even a "single-edged" razor blade. Also, who remembers that guy who was going to a survival school were all he was going to be able to carry was a match & an egg? we never did hear from him again. Hey, maybe he died....from Sol Manila!

[Tony uk]

Hey! Maybe Ranger Rick might like this thing if he puts the razor blades back in! Who was it that posted pictures on this site where they cut the crap out of there hand with a razor-blade? If memory serves me right it was even a "single-edged" razor blade. Also, who remembers that guy who was going to a survival school were all he was going to be able to carry was a match & an egg? we never did hear from him again. Hey, maybe he died....from Sol Manila!

Strange since we told him how to cook it

[Stealth]

for the razor blades, just put masking tape on one of hte edges and that will keep it protected and then when you need a sharp side, just put the tape on the old side. granted this kit isnt as inclusive that one should be... but many people just dont want to carry a big bag with them, so somethings better than nothing

[Gray Wolf]

Tony, Unfortunately you're right about the Whistle, even if you just drive off the road behind some trees, and somethings wrong, hurt, heart attack, whatever, you can use that Whistle better, longer and louder that your voice. Let alone with the Whistle, 3 blasts and it's a call for help. But I guess newbies think it's not macho.... Newb's, buy a pea less one, it won't freeze up. Smaller kits are not better!!! I have a backpack one, a smaller one (9"W x6"H x 5"W with a detachable shoulder strap, that I carry if I am not going to be far from my van. And always on my belt clip key chain is a small knife, a Sparky 1 fire starter in its leather case with lint in it, a P38 or P51 can opener/striker (it's the most versatile tool there is! see list) a Howler Whistle, and a Photon 2 led. I also always carry either my Wave, or my Junk Yard Dog 2.

[zervosc]

Hi again from Greece,

I carefully read your comments. You are helping me and I really thank you.

Gray Wolf: I understant what you say about the whistle. I think there is space in my kit to add a small but powerful one. My kit is not a joke my friend.

Sarge: Of course someone can write his will with the tiny pencil but the size of the 2 pieces of paper is not so small (about 1,5'' x 4''). He can also draw a path, write notes, write a telephone number or an important message if he is wounded. In the next version of the kit i will include a night sky map and instructions (first aid, survival). Also a small paper with personal information like my blood type, telephone number etc. Why you are laughing on the condom?. It is not the first time a condom is included in a survival kit. And I am not downsizing any important gear. The size of the condom is the bigger available!

Christos - Athens

[Rick]

Christos - I think the night sky map is an excellent idea. I have one in my 1010 Pelican kit. I cut it to fit inside the lid. I'm decent at reading the night time sky but a map always helps. I would recommend the Howler whistle. I carry one and it is fairly flat. Whatever you decide on make certain it is a pea less whistle. You can also wrap some duct tape around your pencil so you will have some in tape in your kit.

[Assassin Pilot]

Yes, I know there are tons of threads about survival kits on this forum, but this one is a bit different. I will start w/ a list of basic items that should be in a survival kit, and you guys tell me what to add / subtract from the list.

I will edit this first post with the suggestions, so instead of having it spread apart in 10 pages on posts, it will be here. This way it will be easier for people so they don't have to read through tons of posts for a good idea of what to include.

Keep in mind that this is supposed to be a basic survival kit, not specified for any circumstance in particular, but something you would keep in the trunk of your car in the event you need it.

Survival kit

- Rope
- Fishing line
- Ziplock bags
- Garbage bags
- Waterproof Tarp

- Dried food
- Water purification tablets
- Band-aids, iodine / antiseptic wipes
- Metal cup
- Sunglasses
- Sweatshirt

- Waterproof matches
- Small lighter
- Paper / Pen
- Pocketknife / knife sharpener
- Signal mirror
- Whistle
- Compass / regional & country map
- Paperclips

Again, if you think anything else should be added to the kit, just post and I will gladly add it (unless someone else thinks otherwise, in which I will let you guys debate it out or make a section for "maybe" items)

[Rick]

AP - How is this thread different that all the others? See:

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=1256

It has 19 pages of information. This thread is a sticky for anyone wanting to know about survival kits.

Besides, every kit is going to be different depending on the person, their activity, level of knowledge and skills, as well as their duration spent in the bush. There is no one perfect survival kit.

[Sarge47]

Here's the deal, 1st off, you crossed over into another thread trying to insert info about a Survival Kit that belongs under the same "sticky" as the "Wolf-Pack Survival Kit" thread; (see Rick's response on that one.) Next, you say your looking for....what? advice? Comments? ooohing & ahhhhing? It's a Survival kit and if it works for you then great. Most of us have "been there, done that, got the t-shirt". Don't expect us to all stand up & cheer because you passed "survival kits 101". Also, I wasn't kidding about the condom, but the "Viagra". It's a joke, don't they have humor in Greece? Start paying attention to protocol and 1st read the "sticky" on Survival kits where all these new Survival kit threads are going to wind up shortly. Just jumping into a forum with a topic that's been done to death without properly introducing yourself is considered rude.

[Beo]

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!!!!

[Sarge47]

Like Rick says! This stuff is getting old! wading through all the other posts would've had to happen anyway if you're studying. Let's do it right, Ok? You could have added your question on at the end of the "sticky" and nobody would have to go any further than there to respond.

[Assassin Pilot]

alright. I suppose you guys have a point. I just thought it would be convenient not to have to go through lots of pages of posts, and have it all be in the first post (I would edit it as other people added stuff) since often threads get off-topic, but oh well.

[trax]

Threads get off topic in here? Nonsense. Personally, I think the most important item in your "survival kit" is a really nasty attitude about making sure you stay alive, you'll pack what you need if that's your thinking.

[zervosc]

Hi Sarge,

I think that now I am in the right thread. Here is a 3rd version of my Smallest Home-Made Survival Kit including fishing lines (thin-thick), 4x fishing hooks, 3x weights and shoap (in aluminium cover). I changed the pencil with graphite wrapped in tape. I included also a photo with everything packed in the small metal box.

About me: - I am 36 and I love outdoor activities. x-scout troop here in Athens now I am spending weekends in sailboat races (participating in the local championship) and flying with gliders.

Of course my kit is not like the survival kits you will find in the survival shops. But it is still very small portable and extremely useful. And you can survive with something like this in the deep forest - a good knife is always needed in any outdoors activity.

But it can be useful also in the city - i have this kit with me every time - because of it's size it will be also useful in the summer where everyone is moving from one beach to the other wearing a short, a t-shirt and holding a packet of cigarettes in his/her hands.

I have it also with me when flying.

Here in Greece where we have a long summer and a very short winter, small forests and water almost everywhere - a kit like this can help very much.

Of course before going out to the wilderness someone may use a bigger survival kit - this is part of the good planning of any outdoors activity. But in everyday life where everything can happen a kit like this can definately save lives.

Have a nice day,

Christos - Athens - Greece

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[zervosc]

Please check the v.3 of the Smallest Home-Made Survival Kit

C

[Rick]

You might consider something for water purification. I don't know how clear the streams are in Greece but if water borne illness is a possibility then something like water purification tablets are necessary. I don't think your tin kit is large enough to boil water in (just judging from the pictures).

http://www.aquatabs.ca/