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    I'd like to put my toe next to the line for a second and say, I agree with Becks' message today. To hang in there because, when the money runs out which side do you want to be on? JMO, it will be survival.


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    I think Beck has the wrong take on the future. We now have a right to mandatory health insurance and the next shoe to drop will be your right to mandatory employment.

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    I just heard on the local news that the Attorneys General in 13 states are considering a challenge on constitutional grounds, including Indiana. We already have a health program in place for the poor (HIP) and the governor is p@#$# because the federal law will do away with the program.
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    The AG of Florida is bringing the case, and has 12 co-signers (I think). There are going to be so many lawsuits about this.
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    The Supreme Court would have to make a stunning departure from precedent in order to throw it out. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    I don't want to say anything political. So instead, I'll just say "You've Gotta' Be Kidding Me!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by your_comforting_company View Post
    and for the record, I priced health insurance for my family a few months ago and I can't afford that either. I can't possibly be required to have something I can't afford. .
    However, this bill is forcing people to do just that. Get insurance or get fined.
    There are now 38 states that are suing over this bill being unconstitutional...this thing is far from over...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ken View Post
    The Supreme Court would have to make a stunning departure from precedent in order to throw it out. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.
    What if the states get together, and request a whatchamacallit...to make a new amendment to the constitution?
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    That's the thing...the states don't want this either. In the end your state taxes will be what pays for this bill...and many states simply can't pay it. Not to mention they know that the government has no rights under the constitution to force us to purchase something like that. They don't want to change the constitution to allow for it...they just don't like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2dumb2kwit View Post
    What if the states get together, and request a whatchamacallit...to make a new amendment to the constitution?
    No need for a Constitutional Convention (you really don't want one - they open up the whole thing) because it is already not in there - forcing citizens to buy something.
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    Wonder how many young folks will loose their homes because they have to purchase insurance with the money they now use to pay their mortgage.

    I guess it's a good thing that our government is setting our personal priorities and making our personal choices for us! Now if they would only decide if I should order "original recipe" or "extra crispy." I have a really tough time with THAT choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I just heard on the local news that the Attorneys General in 13 states are considering a challenge on constitutional grounds, including Indiana. We already have a health program in place for the poor (HIP) and the governor is p@#$# because the federal law will do away with the program.
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    Ya gotta buy auto ins to drive,, just sayin'

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Case View Post
    Ya gotta buy auto ins to drive,, just sayin'
    But if you choose not to own a car, you are not required to buy auto insurance. With health care you will have no choice. That's kind of one of the points. Just sayin'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Case View Post
    Ya gotta buy auto ins to drive,, just sayin'
    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    But if you choose not to own a car, you are not required to buy auto insurance. With health care you will have no choice. That's kind of one of the points. Just sayin'.
    And it's insurance for damage/injury to others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin Case View Post
    Ya gotta buy auto ins to drive,, just sayin'
    "Two wrongs don't make a right" but along the same kind of thinking as "Bush did it"

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    I'm conflicted on this issue. My children are both adopted through the state foster care system. Along with my children came medicaid/medicare for them until they turn 18 at no cost to us.

    For the first few years I put them on my policy. When the rates continued to rise, I took the state healthcare up on their policy full time instead of part time. My daughter is CP and there is no way in hell that we could have ever paid for her medical through my policy or what I make. Example, specialist doctors who charge $250.00 an hour. Now, not taking anything away from the docs, they are good. So good that my daughter is living a great life under their care.

    With this new healthcare, my daughter will never have to worry about getting coverage when she gets older. She is also legally blind. But on the other hand, if anyone thinks that their premiums are not going to go up, WAKE UP. Not to mention we now have a gov. that is forcing you to purchase something that some may not want to buy.

    I think this is a step backwards and could have been handled completely different. Unfortunately, the Repo's are as much to blame as the Dem's. The Repo's will keep it in the lime light in hopes to get control in November, not even addressing why under an 8 year rule, they did nothing. The perscription drug policy they pushed through, they did it just like the Dems did this healthcare policy. Backroom deals.

    I think Al Sharpton said it best when they asked him if Obama was a socialist with his programs, he said "If the people did not want socialism, then they would not have voted Obama in as president."

    It's going to take alot to bounce back from this one as it not just affects healthcare. It sets precidents on gov. and it's future control.

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    Ya know what,, This whole thing started out to be like Canada, it has been so watered down it aint worth a squat anyway, You guys complain about the rich having to pay for it, well guess what, If we had universal health care there would be less people claiming disability and welfare because they got sick,, Nothing you do or say will stop this government from taxing everybody for every cent it can. Thats my story and I'm sticking to it !

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