Survivalists & their "Positive" view of TSHTF!

**Sarge47** · 01-20-2008, 02:39 PM

This thread will introduce my new scenario, but 1st a few words about the Survivalists mentality. Maybe Remy can, or already has, shed some light on this mindset but 1st the human mind seems, for the most part, to think nothing bad will ever happen to them, their family, loved ones, etc.. 2nd, it's sorta like the scenario in Stephen King's book: The Stand", where a Pandemic of global proportions, a Biological Warfare Virus, gets loose on an unsuspecting world and wipes out 90% of the earth's population. You only survive if you are already immune to the virus, the nest step is to survive each other. Now the positive spin, The government is gone. No taxes, Buying or selling, none of that; everything's free for the taking. Vehicles, guns, homes, food, medicine, whatever. Technology still exists, but no "infra-structure" of any kind.

So here's your scenario, it's like the "Stephen King" book without the Satanic bad guy. 90% of the world's population is gone, as is it's infra-structure. Oddly enough, The whole Wolf-Pack has survived as well as the internet, electricity(for now), all utilites. However there is no Law enforcement or military to protect you. What are you going to do? What new threats do you see as lurking on the horizon?

**canid** · 01-20-2008, 03:04 PM

let's hope it's not rather like earth abides. kill him for syphilis!

**Rick** · 01-20-2008, 03:20 PM

Haven't read the book. This is a virus so I assume it's contagious. With 90% of the world's population gone nothing is going to work but it's your scenario so okay.

I have to become an isolationist. With a contagious and deadly infectious pathogen on the loose, I want to quarantine myself and my family from any possible exposure. That definitely means Bug In.

What new threats? Same as any other scenario but this time you had better know something about the disease. Can it survive outside the host? If so how long? Is man the only host it uses or can it cross species? Little nice to knows like that.

**Sarge47** · 01-20-2008, 03:30 PM

You need to read the book, it's very long and very interesting from a "Survivalists" point of view. T.V. Made it into a "mini-series" with an all-star cast, you can rent it from family video. You are right about nothing being able to work, however I thought there might be a possibility that computers and what-not would have some sort of back-up program so I'm going with that. This would allow us to keep in contact with each other. It's too late to do anything, the disease is air-borne and hit everybody before they were even aware of it's existence. Your family is either dead or alive, up to you. In the book most family members did not survive and new relationships had to be formed. Remember, we all like to think bad things can't happen to us...etc...

**sohumsocal** · 01-20-2008, 03:50 PM

Hello! New to this site. I have become increasingly interested in Hiking and survival measures for future use. Something I am looking into begining practicing now just not sure how and still looking into different methods. My exposure so far has been little except childhood fun in rural Texas. Other exposure is My dads & husbands survival skills learned from the USMC. -Sniper training and later wild California survival. I have only heard how this is done never actually experienced it. Then I have heard about hikers who are completly self contained and have no reliance on the land as far as plants and animals. What are some of the things or ways this is done with people on this site? How does it fit into your life? Is it practiced, lived or visited and on what level, if you will.

As far as the post, I haven't read these books, though my son has, -not my genre. But it is interesting to think of what could happen and how would we react to it? I feel that something will and definately could eventually happen and am drawn to this area for beginning a new practice during this time of my life.

**Sarge47** · 01-20-2008, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by sohumsocal

Hello! New to this site. I have become increasingly interested in Hiking and survival measures for future use. Something I am looking into begining practicing now just not sure how and still looking into different methods. My exposure so far has been little except childhood fun in rural Texas. Other exposure is My dads & husbands survival skills learned from the USMC. -Sniper training and later wild California survival. I have only heard how this is done never actually experienced it. Then I have heard about hikers who are completly self contained and have no reliance on the land as far as plants and animals. What are some of the things or ways this is done with people on this site? How does it fit into your life? Is it practiced, lived or visited and on what level, if you will.

As far as the post, I haven't read these books, though my son has, -not my genre. But it is interesting to think of what could happen and how would we react to it? I feel that something will and definately could eventually happen and am drawn to this area for beginning a new practice during this time of my life.

You need to introduce yourself at the "Introductions" site in the "General Chat " area, but welcome any way. Move your intro over there to receive any input if you would, thanks.

**Sarge47** · 01-20-2008, 03:57 PM

Hello! Hello! Is anyone out there? Hello Wolf-Pack Where you guys at? Are any of you still alive? My wife and son are gone, I had to bury them in the back yard. There was a cop who lived down the street and went nuts with his Riot gun. Blew away his whole family, then four of his neighbors before blowing the top of his skull off with his 44 Magnum! Right now I've piled up everything I own against the doors and windows, keeping my weapons close. there was a lot of activity for awhile but haven't seen or heard anything in the last 48 hours. Please! If any of you read this please respond!

**nell67** · 01-20-2008, 04:09 PM

Sarge...is that really you??Nell here,the husband and son at home didnt make it either,dont know about the other son and his family,they are in town.
covered all my windows and doors with blankets,locked and dead bolted,here by myself and not real comfortable staying here alone,think I am going to load up the truck with provisions,my gun and ammo and see about heading north,heard from anyone else???

**Rick** · 01-20-2008, 05:34 PM

I've taken model rocket engine igniters and stuck them into tupperware bowls of black powder along with some nuts and bolts. I've buried them in the yard and ran wire from them into the house. I also have done some similar with containers of gasoline out by the street. Buried the whole thing. Anyone that wants to come in had better be by invite.

Ate the last of the dog two days ago and I've seen cat tracks in the frost the last two mornings. I've taken some stereo wire and made some snares. I might eat tomorrow. Hope it's a fat one.

Corpses everywhere. Thank God it's winter. If I don't eat soon I'm gone have to make a run for the border (little plug for Taco Bell

).

How's that, Sarge?

**Sarge47** · 01-20-2008, 06:10 PM

Nell & Rick, glad to see you guys are still around. My radio reports that the highways, roads & streets are all blocked by cars filled with corpses. everybody was heading to the woods, as if that would save them! I've got plenty of food and water stockpiled, but I don't think anybody else is left around here. My last radio station just went off the air without warning. I think they have bit the big one as well. I'm staying until I have a plan, anybody else? Our National Guard unit is gone so there's no way to chopper out!

(ps, not bad rick; remind me not to come callin'

)

**nell67** · 01-20-2008, 06:15 PM

Well,if the roads are all blocked,then maybe I'll head over to one of the Amish houses around here and see if I can snag a couple of horses,one to pack my stuff,and the other to ride,maybe see what they have stored in their pantry that will travel well..one of the horses will be a draft,should be able to carry quite a bit on that one.

**Sarge47** · 01-20-2008, 06:20 PM

Horse travel is really not a bad idea, you might get around a lot of trouble spots that way!(here's something that may really help a survialist!) Go packing heat, remember, even though the Amish are known to be pacifists strange things can happen to anyone. Any ideas where you might go?

**wareagle69** · 01-20-2008, 06:22 PM

pleased to meet you hope you guess my name..

**nell67** · 01-20-2008, 06:24 PM

Wareagle! you made thru too!whats the conditions like up there?

**wareagle69** · 01-20-2008, 06:33 PM

right now its snowy and cold just the way i like it keeps every thing quiet i'm safe for a while enough supplies will get me thru till spring and since there are no laws anymore guess i can hunt a deer when i need to.

**nell67** · 01-20-2008, 06:45 PM

Not sure where I'll end up Sarge,just know I live in a total electric tin can (mobile home) and the powers gone out here now.

**Rick** · 01-20-2008, 06:49 PM

I'm so sick of wearing latex gloves and a respirator. I snagged an old newspaper that said the virus can live up to two weeks on surfaces. Watch yourself, Nell. You go into those farms too early and it might be the last of you.

**nell67** · 01-20-2008, 06:51 PM

Already been exposed ,Rick,showing no signs of illness yet,like I said,the husband and son didn't survive,been over a week now and still no symptoms.By the time I meet up with anyone,I should be well beyond the incubation period,if I start feeling ill,I'll just stop where I am and stay put,no sense spreading it to anyone who may not have come into contact with it,but I have to find a place to stay for the night where I can build a fire,give the horses a rest.

**Canadian-guerilla** · 01-20-2008, 06:58 PM

some things you can not prepare for

it seems that i now have an extended family
after i shot the pervert that was going after her daughter
this new widow " attached " herself and her kids to me
that was five days ago
and now my extended family includes
3 adult women
1 used-to-be punk kid
9 children aged 10 and under

before all this
i had no problem looking out for myself
but now i'm responsible for all these people
HOW THE HELL DID THAT HAPPEN !!

whatever, **** happens
i've moved everyone into an old factory on the edge of town
and started the women on gun training, despite their objections
i think tmmw, i'll tell the punk kid to hit the road
doesn't help with chores, just looks around for batteries for his gameboy

**Sarge47** · 01-20-2008, 06:58 PM

I just had a rough time of it! I met a guy named Dan who was also unaffected like me. We moved most of the bodys out of here using a van. Moved them over into a mass grave out in the corn-field that stretches for miles right in front of my house. He'd dug it with a back-hoe. (That's his line of work. I'd heard the back-hoe, but hadn't paid it much attention) we were both attacked by two other guys who were also unaffected. Dan shot his attacker but the guy managed a fatal knife thrust to Dan before he died. I...I...don't know how to say this...I used my Ka-bar on the other guy...he had a butcher knife and cut my left bicep....I...I nearly took his head off with a wild swing. There was all this blood.....I'll...I'll be alright. I'm going out tomorrow with my guns and use the van to bring all the food I can find back here. I still don't have a clue as to what else I can do. I still see that guy's eyes...don't think I'll be getting much sleep tonight. I used my 1st aid kit and cleansed the wound from the butcher knife. I stitched it up with my sewing kit. Didn't even mind the pain...just kept seeing that guy's eyes....