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    Smile survival rifles.

    I plan on getting an m6 airforce rifle.

    I whas wondering what rifles everyone had or which one you're planning on getting?


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    Cool rifles.

    Quote Originally Posted by survivorman. View Post
    I plan on getting an m6 airforce rifle.

    I whas wondering what rifles everyone had or which one you're planning on getting?
    I own an AR-7 and a Ruger 10-22. Winchester doesn't make the M-6 anymore so you'll have to shop around to find one. Pity, it looks like a great gun.
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    they dont? *crawls into a ball and cries.*

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    Henry Survival 22 looks like a good one for its size

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    Quote Originally Posted by survivorman. View Post
    they dont? *crawls into a ball and cries.*
    No, bummer! I called them a few days ago and asked if they did. (309) 944-5631) They told me they didn't, but I went ahead & got one of their cataloges anyway.
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    Cool Thhe AR-7

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony uk View Post
    Henry Survival 22 looks like a good one for its size
    The benefits of the AR-7 is that it breaks down into and everything fits into the stock, and only weighs 2 1/2 lbs. Henry Repeating Arms (www.henryrepeating.com) now owns the rights. Previously it was the Armalite Corp. The new model has an extra 8-round magazine and the whole thing, when stored inside the stock, floats. Also Henry has improved the sighting and has grooved the receiver to accept a scope. I've read some reports that the main complaint seems to be jamming however I haven't had any problems with that yet.
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    Sarge;
    What ever it takes, a survival gun is just that. Interestingly you mention the .22 cal rifle, this caliber is responsible for dropping more big game than any other caliber weapon ever made. It is not a sure kill every time, and to drop the big ones you have to become more than a average shot. You need to know where to hit to do what you need to do inorder to glean this animal.
    So being a good shot is good, but knowing where to hit is even more important.
    If your bang stick can assure you of good tight groups, this is what is important, everything else is just window dressing.

    Rusty.

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    Cool The mighty .22

    Quote Originally Posted by rusty_oxydado View Post
    Sarge;
    What ever it takes, a survival gun is just that. Interestingly you mention the .22 cal rifle, this caliber is responsible for dropping more big game than any other caliber weapon ever made. It is not a sure kill every time, and to drop the big ones you have to become more than a average shot. You need to know where to hit to do what you need to do inorder to glean this animal.
    So being a good shot is good, but knowing where to hit is even more important.
    If your bang stick can assure you of good tight groups, this is what is important, everything else is just window dressing.

    Rusty.
    I hear you, I once had to use 6 or 7 rounds trying to finish off a squirrel with a .22 on a hunt once, and I was hitting him in the head! (Musta been an "Irish" squirrel.) ;>) The dumbest thing I ever did was sell my Savage Stevens "over & under" for a hundred dollars. .22 rifle on top, 20 gauge shotgun on the bottom. DUUUUHHH!!! Truth of the matter, I probably would only carry a firearm in certain circumstances, but not all of them. BTW, I salute a fellow "Scouter".
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    My first rifle was a Winchester 01 .22 short single shot. I could chamber and fire longs, and long rifles in it too, but it was a bit more difficult to do.
    It was with this rifle I dropped my first deer, and elk, thanks to my uncles and them teaching me some old hunting tricks.
    Even a .22 short will drop large game if you know where to hit them, I don't think I should use this medium to go into this subject, however I need to stress that a head shot is not the best shot you can make, it is such a small target where you want to hit, and if you are off you have an animal who in most cases is unable to feed.
    I suppose for some, convienience is an issue in chooseing a survival weapon, if you have food in camp there is little need to drag a rifle around with you unless it is for protection.
    Given my druthers I would have to go for the old Winchester 02 "Gallery" pump action ,22. I like the under barrel tube magazine, and when not needed, the twist of a skrew and the rifle comes apart in two sections, to stuff into your back pack. I have not seen these rifles in some time and I doubt if Winchester makes them any more.
    When it gets down to plain brass tacks, the choice of a survival rifle is a personal one, and as such should be respected by others.

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    I do not like the ar-7. I have shot a couple different ones and think they are very bulky and not very accurate. You can pick up a good used .22LR for next to nothing. Just try several different brands of ammo and stick with the one that gives you the best group. I have a Marlin 925 bolt action and have been very happy with it. I would not be afraid to use this rifle in a survival situation. If I was in a national disaster (hurricane Katrina) and needed a firearm for protection I would use my AK47.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bear View Post
    I do not like the ar-7. I have shot a couple different ones and think they are very bulky and not very accurate. You can pick up a good used .22LR for next to nothing. Just try several different brands of ammo and stick with the one that gives you the best group. I have a Marlin 925 bolt action and have been very happy with it. I would not be afraid to use this rifle in a survival situation. If I was in a national disaster (hurricane Katrina) and needed a firearm for protection I would use my AK47.
    My kid brother came out of the Army & bought a brand new AR-15 & an AR-7. He bought a kit that completely changed the look of the AR-7, including a "pistol-grip" handle for it. I prefer my Ruger 10/22 since I live in Illinois and hunting anything here with a center-fire rifle is "verboten". However the AR-7 is for emergencies only and I have no need of an assault rifle...at this time.
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    I have a springfield m6 scout and I highly recomend it. very accurate and the .410 is great.

    Sarge47, winchester never made the m6 the newer ones were springfield, and the air force orignals were stevens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by troutndeer View Post
    I have a springfield m6 scout and I highly recomend it. very accurate and the .410 is great.

    Sarge47, winchester never made the m6 the newer ones were springfield, and the air force orignals were stevens.
    Okay, do you know if anyone else is making the M-6 Scout at this time?
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    I dont think so, springfield stoped production about 3 years ago. I have a stainless .22 hornet/.410 that i take every ware in the back woods.

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    well I hope I can find a m6.
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    Quote Originally Posted by survivorman. View Post
    well I hope I can find a m6.
    If not, don't sell the AR-7 short. Henry Repeating Arms has made some great improvements, including adding an extra clip. The receiver is also grooved for a scope which can help with the accuracy.
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    I also want the ar-7 if a gun can fold into the stock it has to be usefull.
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    check the online gun auctions like gunbroker.com. i have never bought form any of these sites but its an option. shotguns are always a good choice. inexpensive,versitle the barrel removes from mine easily making it compact and stowable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zadig39 View Post
    check the online gun auctions like gunbroker.com. i have never bought form any of these sites but its an option. shotguns are always a good choice. inexpensive,versitle the barrel removes from mine easily making it compact and stowable.
    Let me re-phrase, I won't spend a ton of money on a certain type of gun. I called Savage-Stevens and they're planning on putting their Model 24 over & under back into production for a limited run. I'll have to see what the asking price is. Meanwhile I also have an H & R 12 ga. single barrel shotgun, not to mention a Ruger Mark II .22 cal. pistol.
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    I've always liked the idea of those over-under combos, I will have to check them out if Stevens puts them back in production.

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