In the event of Societal Upheaval (i.e., "Stuff" HTF) - the Feral Pet Problem

[BENESSE]

So it seems we all have our own personal lines in the sand that we don't think we're gonna cross.
Hope we're never put to the test. That would be TEOTWAWKI for me.

[DOGMAN]

In order to survive, I would eat a human in a second. No questions asked. I wouldn't kill another human just to eat...but if there was a corpse around and I was starving I'd eat it without hesitation....

Stoke the fire, pour the wine, and pass me some Rick! (he tastes like twinkies)

[BENESSE]

In order to survive, I would eat a human in a second. No questions asked. I wouldn't kill another human just to eat...but if there was a corpse around and I was starving I'd eat it without hesitation....pass the wine....after all, weren't we all created in the imagine of God?



Stoke the fire, pour the wine, and pass me some Rick! (he tastes like twinkies)

We are wired to fight for survival. Whether we take advantage of that or not is up to us.
I am forever evaluating when and if survival at any cost is worth it. Honestly, I have no answers.
Certainly, if you believe in Christ (pict. & preach help me here) you've got eternal life. No need to get desperate here, right?

[SARKY]

There is a big difference between eating human flesh (long pig) for survival reasons and doing it as a lifestyle.
Feral dogs are a big problem on the north east (Maine) they have been breeding with coyotes, the offspring are called coydogs. They tend to be bigger, meaner, and not afraid of man.

[BENESSE]

Again, maybe it's just me, but...
There are ways to deal with feral animals and in if TSHTF, no one is going to loose sleep over that.
Why aren't people more afraid of dealing with feral humans?
That's more complicated from a practical and a moral POV.
Just imagine the scenarios.

[DOGMAN]

Again, maybe it's just me, but...
There are ways to deal with feral animals and in if TSHTF, no one is going to loose sleep over that.
Why aren't people more afraid of dealing with feral humans?
That's more complicated from a practical and a moral POV.
Just imagine the scenarios.

Feral Humans....I like that phrase, I am going to use that. Its a perfect description of "meth heads" and the like.

One thing in dealing with Feral Humans, is its hard to be merciless when dealing with other humans, because most of us feel that alot of humans can be transformed and we are not in the position to judge or execute people that are essentially nothing more than a waste of resources...we always feel that these Feral humans can be healed, or reformed to become decent folks.

[BENESSE]

Feral Humans....I like that phrase, I am going to use that. Its a perfect description of "meth heads" and the like.

One thing in dealing with Feral Humans, is its hard to be merciless when dealing with other humans, because most of us feel that alot of humans can be transformed and we are not in the position to judge or execute people that are essentially nothing more than a waste of resources...we always feel that these Feral humans can be healed, or reformed to become decent folks.

I hear you Jason. And agree up to a point...under normal circumstances.
But aren't we talking about WTSHTF, or worse, TEOTWAWKI?
Who'll have the time, inclination or resources to reform a feral human bent on doing you harm? Much like in war time, it would be about split second decisions and no second chances. At least that's what I'm imagining, not having lived through anything worse than power grid down for 48hrs in the summer in NYC.

[owl_girl]

@ Winnie
yea i was just thinking about the US. i dont really know enough about other environments or countries to estimate what might happen in that situation.

[Rick]

Let's back away from religion. Achtung Minen!! Verboten!!

[Ole WV Coot]

Let's back away from religion. Achtung Minen!! Verboten!!

I had some great recipes to post but I guess I can't. Oh well maybe they will sell in paperback.

[BENESSE]

Educations is quite important when you start throwing THAT **** around, dude.

I though we were just playing.

[crashdive123]

While fascinating - PM's are a good place for that part of this discussion to continue. Thanks for offering that up Jason.

[Batch]

Cannibalism has been keeping the feral human population in check since the dawn of man.

If someone kills me and eats my body. I am going to be to busy being upset about being killed to worry about the rest of it.

[mcgyver]

I've never been hungry enough to seriously consider it, nor do I know anyone who has been that hungry yet.
I always try not to count out any options when we are talking about SHTF scenarios.
I would bet my boots that given enough time and hunger a Vegan would accept being a Carnivore.
Dog's and Cats, Guinea pigs and parakeets would be viable table fare.
Bugs and worms would look tasty, and yes a newly deceased human may look like a skinny two legged deer.
I'm not yet ready to consider active human hunting to ever be a choice.

[2dumb2kwit]

I don't think most of us will know what we would do, unless we actually have to make that decision. (I think the same holds true, about having to kill someone.)

I hope that none of us are ever in a situation that we will have to make either one of those decisions.

[BENESSE]

I don't think most of us will know what we would do, unless we actually have to make that decision. (I think the same holds true, about having to kill someone.)

I hope that none of us are ever in a situation that we will have to make either one of those decisions.

True nough 2D.
Although I did feel like putting my hands around your throat once in a while.

[Rick]

Although I did feel like putting my hands around your throat once in a while

Now that right there is kinky I don't care who you are.

[BENESSE]

Now that right there is kinky I don't care who you are.

Ve have our vays....

[2dumb2kwit]

True nough 2D.
Although I did feel like putting my hands around your throat once in a while.

Ahhhhh......passion!

[BENESSE]

Ahhhhh......passion!

Oh, I can get quite passionate about choking the liviing daylight out of you!