Medical and Pharmaceutical Supplies

[Ken]

Okay, whistlebutt, you can go back to sleep now (I did like that reference).

That's just plain mean.

[Rick]

Just so you goobers won't think I'm not for having medical preps, here's my list. That's why I'm looking forward to seeing yours so I can compare.

This is for our medical backpack.

Equipment
1 Stretcher/Body bag
1 Adult and 1 child bag valve mask
6 nitrile latex free gloves
10 4"x4" gauze sponges
1 Bite Stick
20 2"x2" gauze sponges
2 Mylar emergency blankets
2 combat casualty blankets
1 instant cold pack
1 instant heat pack
1 roll of coflex-med flexible hand tear bandage
5 4" conforming stretch roll gauze
5 3" sterile conforming stretch gauze roll
5 2" sterile conforming stretch gauze roll
1 4" elastic bandage
1 2" elastic bandage
2 Needi Jumbo Triangular Bandage 40" with two safety pins
5 5"x9" abdominal pads
5 8”x10” abd pads
5 liquid bandages – unit dose
5 steri strips
20 antiseptic hand wipes
1 roll of 1" clear adhesive tape
2 face mask with eye shield
5 knuckle flexible bandages
16 1"x3" plastic adhesive bandage strips
1 Trauma dressing 10"x30" sterile
10 2"x3 (xlarge) plastic adhesive strips
1 Burn sheet
1 package Mole skin
2 Bolin chest seals
2 Kitchen sized trash bags
2 Large sized trash bags
10 feet of duct tape
10 Triage tags
2 Felt tip pens
Patriot adjustable cervical collar – 1 adult/1 pediatric
2 Stat splints
2 finger splints
1 Suction bulb
1 Blast bandage
2 Olaes™ Modular Bandage
20 Alcohol preps
10 Cotton balls
10 Q-tip swabs
Surgical kit
50 feet of paracord
Notepad
3 gallon sized Ziplock bags
Eyeglass repair kit
1 Finger ring cutter
1 Kelly hemostat 5.5" straight
1 pair of Truama Shears 7 1/2"
1 pair of tweezers
1 splinter forceps
1 Needi Diposable penlight with pupil gauge
1 Red filtered light
5 light sticks
1 Tempanic thermometer
1 Needi BP Cuff adult
1 dual head sprague stethoscope latex free
2 non sterile needles
2 medium safety pins
2 large safety pins
Fresnel lens magnifier
GPS and spare batteries
2 meter radio (still need)

Medications
Betadine 1 oz. bottle
Solercaine Cool Aloe Burn Relief
Neosporin – unit dose
Benedryl cream
Benedryl Quick dissolve strips
Tylenol
Advil
Aspirin 300 mg.
Claritin (2nd Generation antihistamine)
Imodium A-D (anti diarrhea)
Pepcide Complete
Water-Jel Burn Gel (contains Lidocaine)
Activated charcoal
Quickclot (25 and 50 mg size)
Vicodin 5-500 tablets
Cipro 500 mg – Adults
Amoxicillin 500 mg – Children
Flexeril 5mg
Thyrosafe Potassium Iodide Tablets, USP, 65 mg.
Electrolyte
Oral Glucose
Hand Sanitizer
1 tube Burt’s Beeswax Lip Balm


Dental Kit
1 Mouth Mirror
1 tweezer
4 tooth picks (sterile)
8 Ibuprofen (200 Mg) tablets
Save-A-Tooth® Emergency Tooth Preserving System
Dental floss
Refilit filling material
Orajel® Severe Pain Formula
2 Nitrile Gloves, medium
2 ActCel Hemostatic Guaze, 2” x 2”
3 Gauze Dressing, 3” X 3”
10 Cotton pellets
Dental Wax

Burn Kit
4 Nitrile Gloves, Large OD
1 EMT Shears, 7.5"
6 Water Jel Burn Gel, 3.5gr Packet
1 Water Jel Burn Dressing, 2" x 6"
1 Water Jel Burn Dressing, 4" x 4"
1 Water Jel Burn Dressing, 8" x 18"
1 Water Jel Face Mask, 12" x 16"
1 CoFlex LF2 Wrap, 3"
1 CoFlex LF2 Wrap, 4"
1 Hazardous Waste Bag

Survival Kit for Medical Pack
1 knife
1 magnesium fire starter
1 flint and striker
1 package water purification tablet
1 package 50’ brass wire
1 metal cup
2 Bic lighters
1 Howler whistle
1 3x5 mirror

Transportable First Aid Kit
1 Mylar emergency blanket
1 roll of coflex-med flexible hand tear bandage
1 Needi Jumbo Triangular Bandage 40" with two safety pins
2 5"x9" abdominal pads
5 alcohol preps
5 knuckle flexible bandages
16 1"x3" plastic adhesive bandage strips
1 Trauma dressing 10"x30" sterile
10 2"x3 (xlarge) plastic adhesive strips
2 Kitchen sized trash bags
2 Large sized trash bag
Medications pack

[BENESSE]

Just so you goobers won't think I'm not for having medical preps, here's my list. That's why I'm looking forward to seeing yours so I can compare.

That's a great list!
The only thing I'd add (maybe it's there & I missed) is some sort of a quick acting oral inhaler like Proventil (asthma) and a suction device to keep the airways clear when someone has experienced trauma or is seriously ill.

[crashdive123]

Did Rick just call us peanuts?

[BENESSE]

Forgot to add something for eye infections and irrigation/opthalmic saline solution.

[2dumb2kwit]

Thank you, OS. That's my thoughts as well.

@2D and Ken - Don't you guys read posts or is it just a problem of comprehension?
Whut?


To which I responded. Good grief, it's possible that you two are brothers .... or sisters.

I also said..."@ Ken - I look forward to the list. Thanks for putting it together!!"

Good grief, I think you two are brothers.....or sisters.

I'm the tall one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=diwx9GsfZmk

[2dumb2kwit]

Okay, whistlebutt, you can go back to sleep now (I did like that reference).

(snicker, snicker) He could be a superhero!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SWmPLIPz6kQ

[2dumb2kwit]

Just so you goobers won't think I'm not for having medical preps, here's my list. That's why I'm looking forward to seeing yours so I can compare.

This is for our medical backpack.

Equipment
1 Stretcher/Body bag
1 Adult and 1 child bag valve mask
6 nitrile latex free gloves
10 4"x4" gauze sponges
1 Bite Stick
20 2"x2" gauze sponges
2 Mylar emergency blankets
2 combat casualty blankets
1 instant cold pack
1 instant heat pack
1 roll of coflex-med flexible hand tear bandage
5 4" conforming stretch roll gauze
5 3" sterile conforming stretch gauze roll
5 2" sterile conforming stretch gauze roll
1 4" elastic bandage
1 2" elastic bandage
2 Needi Jumbo Triangular Bandage 40" with two safety pins
5 5"x9" abdominal pads
5 8”x10” abd pads
5 liquid bandages – unit dose
5 steri strips
20 antiseptic hand wipes
1 roll of 1" clear adhesive tape
2 face mask with eye shield
5 knuckle flexible bandages
16 1"x3" plastic adhesive bandage strips
1 Trauma dressing 10"x30" sterile
10 2"x3 (xlarge) plastic adhesive strips
1 Burn sheet
1 package Mole skin
2 Bolin chest seals
2 Kitchen sized trash bags
2 Large sized trash bags
10 feet of duct tape
10 Triage tags
2 Felt tip pens
Patriot adjustable cervical collar – 1 adult/1 pediatric
2 Stat splints
2 finger splints
1 Suction bulb
1 Blast bandage
2 Olaes™ Modular Bandage
20 Alcohol preps
10 Cotton balls
10 Q-tip swabs
Surgical kit
50 feet of paracord
Notepad
3 gallon sized Ziplock bags
Eyeglass repair kit
1 Finger ring cutter
1 Kelly hemostat 5.5" straight
1 pair of Truama Shears 7 1/2"
1 pair of tweezers
1 splinter forceps
1 Needi Diposable penlight with pupil gauge
1 Red filtered light
5 light sticks
1 Tempanic thermometer
1 Needi BP Cuff adult
1 dual head sprague stethoscope latex free
2 non sterile needles
2 medium safety pins
2 large safety pins
Fresnel lens magnifier
GPS and spare batteries
2 meter radio (still need)

Medications
Betadine 1 oz. bottle
Solercaine Cool Aloe Burn Relief
Neosporin – unit dose
Benedryl cream
Benedryl Quick dissolve strips
Tylenol
Advil
Aspirin 300 mg.
Claritin (2nd Generation antihistamine)
Imodium A-D (anti diarrhea)
Pepcide Complete
Water-Jel Burn Gel (contains Lidocaine)
Activated charcoal
Quickclot (25 and 50 mg size)
Vicodin 5-500 tablets
Cipro 500 mg – Adults
Amoxicillin 500 mg – Children
Flexeril 5mg
Thyrosafe Potassium Iodide Tablets, USP, 65 mg.
Electrolyte
Oral Glucose
Hand Sanitizer
1 tube Burt’s Beeswax Lip Balm


Dental Kit
1 Mouth Mirror
1 tweezer
4 tooth picks (sterile)
8 Ibuprofen (200 Mg) tablets
Save-A-Tooth® Emergency Tooth Preserving System
Dental floss
Refilit filling material
Orajel® Severe Pain Formula
2 Nitrile Gloves, medium
2 ActCel Hemostatic Guaze, 2” x 2”
3 Gauze Dressing, 3” X 3”
10 Cotton pellets
Dental Wax

Burn Kit
4 Nitrile Gloves, Large OD
1 EMT Shears, 7.5"
6 Water Jel Burn Gel, 3.5gr Packet
1 Water Jel Burn Dressing, 2" x 6"
1 Water Jel Burn Dressing, 4" x 4"
1 Water Jel Burn Dressing, 8" x 18"
1 Water Jel Face Mask, 12" x 16"
1 CoFlex LF2 Wrap, 3"
1 CoFlex LF2 Wrap, 4"
1 Hazardous Waste Bag

Survival Kit for Medical Pack
1 knife
1 magnesium fire starter
1 flint and striker
1 package water purification tablet
1 package 50’ brass wire
1 metal cup
2 Bic lighters
1 Howler whistle
1 3x5 mirror

Transportable First Aid Kit
1 Mylar emergency blanket
1 roll of coflex-med flexible hand tear bandage
1 Needi Jumbo Triangular Bandage 40" with two safety pins
2 5"x9" abdominal pads
5 alcohol preps
5 knuckle flexible bandages
16 1"x3" plastic adhesive bandage strips
1 Trauma dressing 10"x30" sterile
10 2"x3 (xlarge) plastic adhesive strips
2 Kitchen sized trash bags
2 Large sized trash bag
Medications pack

I have 5 napkins, and some duct-tape.

[2dumb2kwit]

Did Rick just call us peanuts?

No...he said that Peanut was talking about Ken.
(See my other post.(#27))

[Rick]

"From out of the clear blue of the Northeast sky comes....Whistlebutt."

(shrill whistle)

"What on earth was that, pa?"

"That, Jimmy, was Whistlebutt."

Fancy jingle...

Whenever you're in trouble, son
Just pucker up those lips and whistle some.
Out of the blue to rescue you
is Whistlebutt; the bad guys are through.

(weak whistle)

"Uh, wrong lips, Jimmy."
"You mean...?"
"'Fraid so, son."
"Ah, pa."

[Winnie]

Please don't take this the wrong way, Winnie, but it completely baffles me, that some people want to make our (American) medical system, like yours.

No probs at all 2D, what really annoyed me is the fact that I offered to pay for a private prescription and I still got the pat on the head thing.
The NHS, in it's inception was a great idea and ran very smoothly until a certain mrs Thatcher started selling bits off and setting up area "trusts" then the managers came in, gave themselves huge pay rises and got more managers in at the expense of the frontline staff. As Sourdough always says, "boots in the field"

[Rick]

B - You are correct. What I failed to include is about a quart size bottle of water for irrigation. It's in the pack I just forgot to add it the list I guess. It used to be a bottle of ophthalmic irrigation but it went past its expiration so I dumped the solution, cleaned the bottle and filled it with water. You're other three suggestions are very good. I hadn't thought about them.

sjj - That's a great question. Sadly I don't. I never even considered keeping a running tab on it. We've put our kit together or some time and got really serious about it the latter half of last year. We started with an M3 medic bag, outgrew it and went to a full backpack and now we've outgrown it. Since my wife is an RN, some things we just had around. Things like a stethoscope and blood pressure cuff. But purchasing items over time also staggers (somewhat) the expiration dates so you don't have to run out and refresh the entire pack at once.

There are some things in the pack not on that list. I guess I need to break the pack down and reinventory it. I have a headlight and a couple of small penlights in the pack as well as the water I mentioned.

I had remembered posting on this earlier so I went out and found the thread. Kinda of amazing the transformation since the last posting. As I said, we got pretty serious about it the latter half of last year. There are some other kit postings in this thread as well.

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...t=medical+pack

If I were going to offer some advice based on my experience is to acquire your supplies first then decide on the size of pack you need. I went about it just the opposite and found out I have more supplies than my pack can hold. So I have to fix that mistake. I also have several small bags that can attach to/or go into the larger pack. For example, my body bag/stretcher is in a pack along with a mylar type survival blanket. I have a kit for dental, a kit for bleeds, a kit for burns, etc. That way you know where stuff is and can grab it.

[LowKey]

Thanks OldSoldier. Checking them out!

Not to get in the middle of the Ken/2D2K thing but when 2D said, "I'm the taller one," I look at his avatar, not the link............. Gotta go get more coffee.

[Rick]

Me too. Mine just came out my nose. That right there is funny.

[Rick]

Here is the pack we use. I didn't buy it from CTD but it's the same pack.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.net/PACK125-1.html

[Rick]

Here's a wiki post on what army medics carry.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipme...a_combat_medic

[Ken]

I've been working on my list a bit - painfully slow process may I add - and guess what? I was amazed to discover that you can purchase an entire IV setup EXCEPT for the inert pre-filled IV fluid bags (Lactated Ringers, etc.). This surprised me, because there are no medications in the fluids - it's just a delivery medium that can be recreated in your kitchen. So now, I'll be hunting for the formula to do just that........

Rick - instead of water, you may want to consider regular contact lense solution in place of ophthalmic irrigation solution. From what I understand, it's a very similar fluid and it approximates the make-up of natural tears, so there will be no burning sensation or drying out of the eye involved.

My eye kit also includes Parcaine 0.5% and Neomycin based Ophthalmic Suspension, because I have this nasty habit of tearing my cornea every couple of years.

[BENESSE]

OK...so all our medical supplies (separate from our home collection) are split between our 2 BOBs which are getting to be pretty heavy. If we have to bail out, it will only be on foot. No BOV, horse or a mule. We'll be the mules.

Carrying a separate medics pack like the one Rick uses would be very convenient but not practical in our situation.
We feel (right or wrong?) that we each need everything in case we ever get separated. And that applies to every single thing we carry.

These BOB's weigh more than I'd like--mine is +-24lbs fully loaded (still manageable after a 10 mile walk) and Mr. B's is about 30lbs.

The question is: Does our approach make sense given our situation? What are we not considering? (short of moving away)

[2dumb2kwit]

Not to get in the middle of the Ken/2D2K thing but when 2D said, "I'm the taller one," I look at his avatar, not the link............. Gotta go get more coffee.

LMAO! OK...I'll admit it....that was funny! LOL

[Rick]

B - I agree for your situation you probably need something like a high end first aid kit. We have ourselves plus three kids, spouses and four grandkids (soon to be 5) to think about and the luxury of one being medically trained.