Here's the scenerio...

**Beo** · 01-10-2008, 12:49 PM

Are you ready

Here we go.
A war between the US and the Middle East has sucked most every country into it, nuke's is set off by two countries, the world economy collapses, power is minimal to nonexistant and computers are useless. There is rioting and people split up into groups, clans, tribes, packs or whatever ya wanna call it, the highways and expressways are packed and at a stand still some cars are abandoned so travel that route is slow at best. The sh*t has hit the fan and everyone got splattered. Goverments not only fight to control their people but those displaced in other countries are left to their safety ans survival. Local county governments are left to their own devices as they struggle to control what is left of a "normal life". What do you do? Have fun with it.

**Rick** · 01-10-2008, 01:00 PM

Well, I'm assuming the U.S. is unscathed from a nuke perspective. At least I'm not worrying about fallout (immediate) or radiation sickness. The conflict has been building so I have been adding to and maintaining my supplies. All of them. My family is linked up and my neighbors are included and we've put together some semblance of government, albeit on a very small scale.

Truckers are going to park trucks and engineers are going to park trains. Barges and ships are going to be at dock so there are warehouses galore of materials and food stores all over the place. They are called semi trailers and railroad cars and cargo holds.

We'll probably set up some barriers to control any traffic flow in the area and send out a few close in patrols to identify any semi's and see what's happening around the area. I'd definitely want to check out some of the drug stores and groceries as well as any homes that are vacated.

Then just try to survive until civilization starts to rebuild.

**Beo** · 01-10-2008, 01:03 PM

Good answer, ever seen the show Jericho? After a nuclear disaster caused by several terrorist attacks destroys most of America, residents of a small Kansas town must come to terms with a new and very different reality.

**wareagle69** · 01-10-2008, 01:04 PM

life goes on as normal, i eat sleep, hunt for for foood,forage, the only difference is i up my security and now i don't worry about the mortage payment cuz i doubt anyone will be trying to coolect on the bills and good luck enforceing it..

**Beo** · 01-10-2008, 01:06 PM

lol... of course your an off the grider already. Like ya say... be prepared. Oh and its dam good to see ya WE.

**Rick** · 01-10-2008, 01:28 PM

I have seen the show, Beo. It's sort of funny because there is one episode when a kid walks up on a train and I'm yelling food inside!!!!! Check the box cars!!!!!!! Yep, he did.

**ryaninmichigan** · 01-10-2008, 02:41 PM

I would probably hang out around the house for a bit, get everyone together, make a plan and head north.

**Sourdough** · 01-10-2008, 10:51 PM

Samething I do everyday, Fetch water, split firewood.

**corndog-44** · 01-11-2008, 02:33 AM

The Great Depression was a dramatic, worldwide economic downturn beginning in some countries as early as 1928. The beginning of the Great Depression in the United States is associated with the stock market crash on October 29, 1929, known as Black Tuesday. In this scenerio the beginning of the "Great Nuke Depression" will be the setting off of nukes. We can learn from the Great Depression which had devastating effects in both the industrialized countries and those which exported raw materials. International trade declined sharply, as did personal incomes, tax revenues, prices and profits. Cities all around the world were hit hard, especially those dependent on heavy industry. Construction was virtually halted in many countries. Farming and rural areas suffered as crop prices fell by 40 to 60 percent. Mining and logging areas had perhaps the most striking blow because the demand fell sharply and there were few employment alternatives.

The Great Depression ended at different times in different countries. The majority of countries set up relief programs, and most underwent some sort of political upheaval, pushing them to the left or right. Liberal democracy was weakened and on the defensive, as dictators such as Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin and Benito Mussolini made major gains, which helped set the stage for World War II in 1939. "The Great Nuke Depression" may set the stage for World War III....or Armageddon.

**Sourdough** · 01-11-2008, 08:27 AM

The Great Depression is as interesting a study for the parts of the planet that did not know it was happening, as balanced by those that suffered most.

**RBB** · 01-11-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Beowulf65

Are you ready

Here we go.
A war between the US and the Middle East has sucked most every country into it, nuke's is set off by two countries, the world economy collapses, power is minimal to nonexistant and computers are useless. There is rioting and people split up into groups, clans, tribes, packs or whatever ya wanna call it, the highways and expressways are packed and at a stand still some cars are abandoned so travel that route is slow at best. The sh*t has hit the fan and everyone got splattered. Goverments not only fight to control their people but those displaced in other countries are left to their safety ans survival. Local county governments are left to their own devices as they struggle to control what is left of a "normal life". What do you do? Have fun with it.

Load all the guns - instead of just a couple. If it was winter, and power went out, we'd move out to the bunkhouse (wood heat, wood cook stove).

Next, I'd shoot all the pesky deer that keep eating my apple trees, and go fishing every day - instead of just weekends - and fill the smoke house with venison and fish. Any meat or fish in the freezer would also get smoked.

Get the hand pump and pipe out of the shed and put them down the well so we wouldn't have to take water out of the lake. Parch and thresh the two 50 gallon drums full of wild rice. Move all the canned goods and maple syrup into the root cellar. Set rabbit snares, deer yank-ups, and muskrat traps.

Set up a yearly plan for gathering foods in season.

Oh, and the great depression started for US farmers just after the end of WW I as crop prices fell. It just got worse after 1929.

**Sourdough** · 01-11-2008, 04:42 PM

I just finished a book "Rugged Years on Alaska Frontier" an autobiography by a young man who came on a steamer to Alaska March 1930. He has no idea that there was a depression in America or the world. He left Alaska after WW II ended. They worked up to 19 hours a day at times, at manual labor so hard that we have nothing today to compare it do. They lived day after day, year after year a lifestyle........that we fear might befall us.

**Chris** · 01-11-2008, 06:58 PM

It is scenarios like this that make we want to install solar panels on my future house. I won't do it now... because I live in a city and if this happened I wouldn't be staying in my house, but go up to my parent's in the country... but in the future when I do live in the country I'll have solar.

Even if you only get enough power to run a water pump, it'll be worth it. Heat you can get from wood. Food you can grow/forage/shoot, but groundwater is a *****. I suppose if you're MacGyver you can just rig up a wind powered water pump, or a mule powered one if you have livestock, but considering how important clean water is, I'll be happy knowing that it will always flow through my pipes.

RBB also has a good idea, shoot all the deer. If not, your neighbors will beat you to it. Smoke that meat (of course, ifyou have no neighbors, maybe... leave a few... so you can shoot some more next year and all that). Maybe catch and breed rabbits, they multiply fast enough and eat weeds.

**Sourdough** · 01-11-2008, 07:18 PM

Hanabel Lector would skip the deer and eat the neighbors. Just being funny, Please don't eat the neighbors.

**Rick** · 01-11-2008, 07:25 PM

Interesting thought. If you have the ability to store that kind of meat for a long period of time then I understand. But I don't think I'd take more than I could process and keep be it smoked, jerky or whatever. I doubt the neighbors will be shooting all the deer. Cows might be another story all together, though.