Survivorman/Man vs. Wild.

**Rick** · 12-07-2007, 03:16 PM

Let's venture into the bush and see if our snares caught anything last night. If we have, we'll want to be truly careful and give the human a good chop on the back of the neck if it's still alive.

**MCBushbaby** · 12-07-2007, 03:27 PM

Well, to be fair, survival isn't glamorous and certainly doesn't fair well in the public eye if they have to sit thru half an hour of it.

"ok, so here I piled a bunch of debris over a simple frame. I made a small fire with this flint, and I'm eating some bugs for food. I'm going to keep doing this for the next half hour so you can skip back to the Colbert Report."

vs.

"by crickey! A rabbit! KACHOP! Boy crickey I broke his neck with my chuck norris karate action. Now I'm jumping off an 80ft cliff into near-freezing water and float down the rapids until I find a bear! Grabbing my trusty SAS knife I kill and skin him, making a fur coat in the process. Blood smeared over my face, I defiantly scream into the heart of nature 'FREEEEDOM!!!!'"

**nell67** · 12-07-2007, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by Beowulf65

I just saw the video where bear catches a rabbit in a snare and after ringing its neck he says to give it karate chop on the neck the make sure its dead! Is he serious?

Um beo,I grew up killing tame rabbits that way,but I had a bad experience with one that I prefer NOT to share,and that was the end of that,now I let someone else stronger than me do it,but lets just say that you need to make SURE its dead before you start to skin it

**Rick** · 12-07-2007, 03:39 PM

But here's the thing. If some guy had a show called Man vs. Urban and purported to show himself spread out on the 101 in L.A. demonstrating survival techniques for dodging cars or entering the subway system in New York to show how to avoid stepping on the third rail or even squeezing and drinking water from a doughnut found in the Chicago River people would think him seriously lacking in brain cells and his show would probably be canceled because everyone understands how stupid those risks are. But it would be entertaining.

**trax** · 12-07-2007, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by nell67

Um beo,I grew up killing tame rabbits that way,but I had a bad experience with one that I prefer NOT to share,and that was the end of that,now I let someone else stronger than me do it,but lets just say that you need to make SURE its dead before you start to skin it

You started ripping the skin off a live rabbit? Oh Cruella! j/k, must have been awful (worse for the rabbit, but awful) I don't know how many rabbit's necks I've wrung over the years, the only time I had to use karate on one was that killer ninja rabbit from hell.....

**nell67** · 12-07-2007, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by trax

You started ripping the skin off a live rabbit? Oh Cruella! j/k, must have been awful (worse for the rabbit, but awful) I don't know how many rabbit's necks I've wrung over the years, the only time I had to use karate on one was that killer ninja rabbit from hell.....

Yea I did,and I dont know which one of us was screaming louder,never had that happen before,and it wont ever happen again,I dont want them to suffer.

**Chris** · 12-08-2007, 04:47 PM

I think now that the cat is out of the bag so to speak, Bear is getting lazier trying to fool people.

This last episode last night he walked up a glacier and slipped off (bugger!). His solution (despite the fact he had crampons with him) was to put socks over his boots. So he did that, and what do you know.. he could walk on the ice.... except he wasn't walking the same way as he did previously. To slip he walked on a steep ice slope to his right, to demonstrate the socks he walked off to his left.

Then he went down for this bit in an ice chasm, and was trying to climb out, but the video of him stuck down there and the video of him climbing out are not from the same hole. He must have went down one, had to get pulled out, and then went down a different/easier hole to demonstrate the climb out.

Then, later, he was climbing this cliff (unnecessarily I might add) only I'm sure he didn't really climb it. For about 5 minutes they showed him struggling on the rock with closeups, only they kept showing the same rock. They probably lowered him down, let him cling while they got some footage, and pulled him back up.

**Sarge47** · 12-08-2007, 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by Rick

(fake British accent) I've been up for 36 straight hours facing some of the most dangerous internet search engines you can possibly imagine. I was forced to drink diet colas to avoid dehydration and to consume beer nuts AND pretzels. But it was worth it to uncover the most realistic Bear Grylls show to date. I hope you appreciate the sacrifices I've made.

http://www.ifilm.com/video/2880099

"Hello, I'm Bare Grills, I've looked at Mt. Everest, tried to join the SAS, drank water from elephant poo, not to mention my own urine, and eaten just about any insect and/or small animal I can find. I like long walks in the park, a girl who's a Libra...Oh crap! wrong intro..."

(voice from Off-Camera) "Cut! Okay Bare, try it without the "singles ad. Take it from right after 'I can find' And...Action!"

(BARE) "And I'm going to teach you how to survive by going out into the wilderness with nothing more that a water bottle and me $700 knife, and a 16 man camera crew who brought along the Winnebago and the 'Honey wagon"...

(Off-Camera) "Cut. Yo, BG baby, that's waaaayy to much information for the audience, OK? I mean they're stupid, I'll grant you that, but they're not complete morons, right? OK, take it from right after $700 knife...and..action!"

(Bare) "Right! ...and me $700 knife. I will also show off my naked Tush to give all you girls and flaming homo's a quick thrill...."

(Off-Camera) "OK! Cut! Uh, BG, you can't say that over the air. Too offensive. again from '$700 knife'...and...roll 'em!"

(Bare) "Right...and me $700 knife...(slaps hand down on the empty sheath) which you can get from...wait a minute, where's me knife? Any of you guys seen my knife? You didn't hide it from me again did you? (laughing from off-camera) You did! Where is it? (pause) out in the woods!? Now I'll never find it. Oh crap!" (Stalks out of the shot.)

(Off-Camera) "Cut! OK guys, that's lunch, be back in an hour."
(Off-Camera) "So, how long do you think it'll take him to find it this time?"
(Off-Camera "I got $20 that says he won't find if for four hours!"
(Off-Camera) "I'll take that bet, I've got it right here in my gear bag..."
(Off-Camera) "I still think it was great you telling him it was safe to drink his own pee! He was hitting the Scope for the next three days!"

**pnut** · 12-10-2007, 04:27 AM

I enjoy both shows. Each gives useful information if you take it in the right context.

**Beo** · 01-07-2008, 01:05 PM

I know you have to snap the neck of the rabbit, BUUUUUUUUUUT you do not have to give it a chuck norris karate chop to make sure it is dead, that is just ridiculas, I have killed my share of rabbits (wild & tame) and wrung the neck, but I never gave it a karate chop to make sure it was dead... lol... sure ya gotta make sure the critter is dead but karate chopping the neck is just plain stupid. IMHO.

**nell67** · 01-07-2008, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Beowulf65

I know you have to snap the neck of the rabbit, BUUUUUUUUUUT you do not have to give it a chuck norris karate chop to make sure it is dead, that is just ridiculas, I have killed my share of rabbits (wild & tame) and wrung the neck, but I never gave it a karate chop to make sure it was dead... lol... sure ya gotta make sure the critter is dead but karate chopping the neck is just plain stupid. IMHO.

I was raised using the side of my hand to kill the rabbit,but I do not do that anymore ( I am sure you read that little story elsewhere

) so now if I have to do it myself,it involves a very sharp knife.

**Beo** · 01-07-2008, 02:45 PM

Really, I had no idea that you wre supposed to do that or anyone even did that, hmmm seems I learn something new everyday.

**nell67** · 01-07-2008, 02:51 PM

Yea I didnt say you were supposed to do it,I just am not going to go through what I did that time,I dont like doing it that way though.

**Elkchsr** · 01-07-2008, 08:25 PM

My GORSH!!!!

That was a lot of reading to catch up... Some times, it sucks to be new to a board...

These shows (like "Survivor") are only meant as entertainment and ratings

If people like us get some thing out of them, that is all the better, but the majority of people will never get much farther than their couch to experience a true survival scenario

If the shows were meant to be of benefit to us, the commercials would be of a different nature catering to our needs and not the general populace

I do like the fact that Les has made appearances to this thread and graced us with a little of his insight

Very cool...

**Rick** · 01-09-2008, 07:51 AM

I don't think that was Les. Was it? I think the survivorman on this forum is just one of us using that avatar and name. Sarge or someone, am I wrong here?

**nell67** · 01-09-2008, 07:53 AM

No you are correct Rick.

**Elkchsr** · 01-09-2008, 09:53 AM

Well shoot...

**nell67** · 01-09-2008, 09:56 AM

sorry Elkchsr.

**MedicineWolf** · 01-09-2008, 04:28 PM

Actually with all the threads we got going here on all the various topics, along with Chris' and Sarges moderating and running of the forum, and Trax, Rick, and Beo's witty banter we don't need any of those guys, there is a ton of real, good, and expert informatin right here. I for one love this site and when it gets down to it we hit every aspect with real survival answers, they work, and can be accomplished by the average person with a little practice. And this site is actually in the NFS (national forestry service) favorites on all our computers.
2 thumbs up for this site.