We are doomed as a country & as a society

[SARKY]

Friday, I was in court waiting my turn, as I was sitting there listening to the cases before mine, one case in particular almost made me leap up and scream "WHAT!!!!!????"
The defendant on whom all charges had been dropped had $30,000 in cash and 21 lawfully purchased guns confiscated. The assistant DA returned the cash but was refusing to return the guns with the statement that "it was akin to returning drugs" Even the judge said that if the drugs were legal they would be returned so the guns should be returned. But to have a moron zealot like that praticing law on behalf of the state (people) is scary to the enth degree.

[Rick]

Okay. Gotta ask. How does one stupid lawyer (sorry Ken) doom us as a country and a society? Can't you just vote the moron out at the next election?

[panch0]

Its just a sample of the state of mind of people nowadays. My five nieces that are nearing their teen years ask "Uncle Frank why do you make knives? Those are dangerous weapons." I awas just left with my mouth open in shock. I tried to tell them that knives are tools and also about hunting but they are just too indoctrinated by all the gunk their liberal teachers put in their little heads. Its very sad to me to hear two things that I love to do be talked about as if they were something vulgar or nasty.

[trax]

If the judge tells the DA to return the guns, doesn't he have to?

[BENESSE]

The defendant on whom all charges had been dropped...

Just curious, what were the charges?

[SARKY]

It was never mentioned, but if the charges were dropped then it is as if they were never charged.
This was 2 of the assistant DA's and the DA has a real problem with guns (not the people misusing them) They also don't have as big a problem with multi offrnder drunk drivers as they do with guns, leagal or other wise.

[2dumb2kwit]

It all goes back to the society that we live in. It seems that the ones that scream the loudest, get the attention (and what they want) regardless of whether they are right or wrong. It doesn't matter what they are screaming. It may be Global Warming, Guns are evil, or I should get free health care.
I say we should go back to the old ways. If you scream, you get attention. If you're right, you're right. If you're wrong.....you get smacked in the mouth, and told to shut the hell up!

[doug1980]

Our **** has been slowly deteriorating for many years. I have always thought that I was born in the wrong time. Look at how people were in the 30's, 40's and 50's. Look at how they helped each other out and tried to take care of one another. That doesn't happen much these days. Maybe our Country has become too diverse, maybe there are way too many people that have an idea of what this Country should be like. It's sad but then again maybe this is what just happens as we evolve as a species. Too smart for our own good maybe. The good thing is we will only be here for a short time so I can sit back and laugh knowing it will only be worse for the next generation.

[BENESSE]

Sarky, it simply defies logic (and law?) if his legally owned guns were confiscated for no reason whatsoever.
Unless there's there's more to the story, wouldn't he have grounds to appeal?

[BENESSE]

Look at how they helped each other out and tried to take care of one another. That doesn't happen much these days. Maybe our Country has become too diverse, maybe there are way too many people that have an idea of what this Country should be like. It's sad but then again maybe this is what just happens as we evolve as a species. Too smart for our own good maybe. The good thing is we will only be here for a short time so I can sit back and laugh knowing it will only be worse for the next generation.

Doug, there's more individual help than ever. Here's just one story but there are countless others. You just have to look.
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/...347.html?yhp=1

[crashdive123]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but don't you see this statement as part of the problem?

so I can sit back and laugh knowing it will only be worse for the next generation.

[Rick]

I don't know if this crosses the line on politics or not. I'm certainly not trying to make any statement. However, just last week I sent an email to both Senators and my Representative stating my position on health care reform. Mine is only one voice but three people heard it. If everyone did that then together we could make an impact. It could be on gun laws, hunting or anything you care passionately about.

We can either sit back and do nothing and @#$%# about the results or try getting involved at the grassroots level and try to make a change. It really is up to you.

......end rant

[BENESSE]

Not to put too fine a point on it, but don't you see this statement as part of the problem?

So true.
We often tend to look at others as a cue of what we should be doing or not doing if no one else is.
Instead, stop worrying about others and do what you think is right. It can be contagious.

[crashdive123]

I have called, written and e-mailed my two Senators, my Congressman, and the Congressional leadership on the issue.

[rwc1969]

I hate to sound negative, but I agree with the title of this thread. I could go on a rant, but it really won't help nothing. I could write my elected officials too, but...

[SARKY]

Beneese, he does have grounds for appeal in fact that is what his lawyer was doing there in court. I realize that this has been coming a long time now it is just how pervasive it is , I thought we had a little more time.
doug, since the "he who dies with the most toys wins" generation then the " it's all about ME" generation, we as acountry have been drifting apart, fracturing. And now these AHOLES don't want to enforce the english is the language of this country and yes it is the official language of this country. In school, i was taught that the 2nd continental congress took a vote as what would be the official language of the 13 states, it was between english and german (a lot of Dutch in the country then) english won by 1 vote. if we don't have a common language, how can we be a country?

[BENESSE]

if we don't have a common language, how can we be a country?

It would be a sad day indeed, if English were no longer the official language of the USA.
The Swiss manage quite well with 3, but then we ain't no Swiss.

[crashdive123]

It would be a sad day indeed, if English were no longer the official language of the USA.
The Swiss manage quite well with 3, but then we ain't no Swiss.

Currently the United States does NOT have an official language.

[Ken]

I have called, written and e-mailed my two Senators, my Congressman, and the Congressional leadership on the issue.

I wrote to my senators last year. Two weeks later, the newspapers reported that one had collapsed. At first, I figured it was because he'd read my letter.

[rwc1969]

Beneese, he does have grounds for appeal in fact that is what his lawyer was doing there in court. I realize that this has been coming a long time now it is just how pervasive it is , I thought we had a little more time.
doug, since the "he who dies with the most toys wins" generation then the " it's all about ME" generation, we as acountry have been drifting apart, fracturing. And now these AHOLES don't want to enforce the english is the language of this country and yes it is the official language of this country. In school, i was taught that the 2nd continental congress took a vote as what would be the official language of the 13 states, it was between english and german (a lot of Dutch in the country then) english won by 1 vote. if we don't have a common language, how can we be a country?

When I was working in the auto industry I went to mexico for service work. A Mexican is the one who told me this one vote story. The majority of management at the factory was german, VW. This was all arounfd the time of NAFTA. Seems ironic.