Glock Owners Sound Off!

[Beo]

not many guys carry sigs on or off duty at my department at least. I have fired a sig, and it wouldn't stop jamming.

Heck at least it sounds like you can choose in your department, here in the Sheriff's Office we are issued a S&W .40,,,,, what a hunk of crap.

[xj2000]

Heck at least it sounds like you can choose in your department, here in the Sheriff's Office we are issued a S&W .40,,,,, what a hunk of crap.

Yes, we can choose, as long as it's double action only. But they will issue. We have S&W 4046s at the moment, but we just got a shipment of M&Ps. The general consensus is that the M&Ps are good guns. So we'll see.

[Beo]

We have the S&W 4046s here, hate that hunk of tin piece of crap, although I shoot either 98 or 99% everytime at the range and know my weapon I and most of us hate the thing.
Man I can remember the days we carried what we wanted... sure do miss those days.
Beo,

[xj2000]

the general opinion is 4046s are crap, but some guys in the sheriff's office love them, and like you say, they shoot good with them. It's all a matter of opinion i think.

[Beo]

Yup.......

[glockcop]

The S&W third generation autos are very reliable and very heavy weapons. If you can take the weight there really is nothing wrong with it. As a rookie I carried a 4006 and it is one of the most pleasant pistols around to shoot because of the weight. Damned fine weapon I tell ya, Damned fine weapon. S&W discontinued the all stainless autos because of cost, no other reason. Thay are great pistols and love the 4 stainless Smith auto's I own. They will never be for sale. Best.

[glockcop]

Well, thank you for the compliment but, I have to respectfully disagree with you on the sigs. I also work in law enforcement and i'll tell ya, not many guys carry sigs on or off duty at my department at least. I have fired a sig, and it wouldn't stop jamming. Then again, it was only one sig i shot, so i could be wrong.

Most LE's are not gun guy's so they don't carry anything but the "issue weapon". That reason and high cost keep the Sig out of the holsters of alot of cops. You must have gotten the only jamming Sig on the planet. I personally have never met one. Hundreds of thousands of rounds and a few hundred pistols have proven this to me over and over. As reliable as tax season. Sigs and Glocks flat out shoot anything (garbage reloads included). I don't question your bad experience but you should try another Sig one day. I bet my third born son that it will perform with utter reliability. I also agree that the H&H USP (I own two presently) is a fine weapon which rests solidly third in line of today's most reliable auto's. Stay safe.

PS Most cops that wine about S&W 3rd generation stainless auto's are not unhappy with it's reliability or shootability but rather it's heavy weight. All you LE's forced to carry a S&W 4006 or 4046 can rest assured that you are well armed. Those suckers will outlast your career. Nearly indestructable, ball bearing tough. Trust me. In the unlikely event you have one that jams, change your recoil spring and mag springs to restore it to a highly reliable condition. It's that easy. Be safe.

[Beo]

Most LE's are not gun guy's so they don't carry anything but the "issue weapon". That reason and high cost keep the Sig out of the holsters of alot of cops. You must have gotten the only jamming Sig on the planet. I personally have never met one. Hundreds of thousands of rounds and a few hundred pistols have proven this to me over and over. As reliable as tax season. Sigs and Glocks flat out shoot anything (garbage reloads included). I don't question your bad experience but you should try another Sig one day. I bet my third born son that it will perform with utter reliability. I also agree that the H&H USP (I own two presently) is a fine weapon which rests solidly third in line of today's most reliable auto's. Stay safe.

PS Most cops that wine about S&W 3rd generation stainless auto's are not unhappy with it's reliability or shootability but rather it's heavy weight. All you LE's forced to carry a S&W 4006 or 4046 can rest assured that you are well armed. Those suckers will outlast your career. Nearly indestructable, ball bearing tough. Trust me. In the unlikely event you have one that jams, change your recoil spring and mag springs to restore it to a highly reliable condition. It's that easy. Be safe.

I cosign on that, it is so true. But I do happen to be one of the few cops who is a gun guy. In the end it is what each person prefers. Personally I would and have staked my life on my H&K USP and feel it is the best weapon hands down, but again that is my opinion and liking, a person will shoot and like what they like so it is what it is, opinion. But the Glocks and Sig's are great weapons.

Beo,

[glockcop]

I cosign on that, it is so true. But I do happen to be one of the few cops who is a gun guy. In the end it is what each person prefers. Personally I would and have staked my life on my H&K USP and feel it is the best weapon hands down, but again that is my opinion and liking, a person will shoot and like what they like so it is what it is, opinion. But the Glocks and Sig's are great weapons.

Beo,

Hey Brother you should definately carry what you like and trust. I have no argument over your choice with the H&K. It is one of my favorite pistols. Not long ago I started a thread about it. It will definately be good to you. Glock, Sig, & HK are like Ford, Chevy,and Dodge. Nowadays they are all really good. Just pick from the top three trucks/pistols on earth and there are no bad choices IMO. I have also and will continue to stake my life on the "Top Three" ever made. I carry Glock and Sig most often but my HK's get out pretty often too. Be safe.

[glockcop]

I happen to own a Glock 22 .40 and it's a good weapon. Although I don't swear by it, it does do the job and take a beating. I simply prefer the H&K USP .40 or my all time favorite the standard Colt Competition .45 as my first choice. I also prefer nothing smaller than a .40 as I want the muzzle velocity to knock Johnny Bad Guy on his azz and never get back up. But thats just me.
My next handgun will be the FN Five Seven, it's 5.7 x 28mm and a real great weapon. I have shot the crap outta the one we have at work and it is the next best thing to an H&K I have found. We beat the snot outta the thing and kept going and didn't clean until it stove piped on the 238th round, no crap!
Only thing is the smaller caliber that gets me but it went through one of our old duty vests at fifty feet, nice for us but bad if the Johnny Bad Guys have them. Of course I can hit what I aim at though.
Beo,

The Five Seven is a beautiful weapon if you are Stevie Wonder . They look like a mutant. Looks aside, 238 rounds and a stove pipe is P*ss poor reliability. Anything short of taking an 8 lb maul to it should not have caused an $890.00 weapon to stop at 238 rounds. Hell, a piece of sh*t $149.00 High Point can do better. Not exactly bragging rights IMO. At 238 rounds a Glock or Sig is just warming up. I have a rule of thumb for pistols used for self defense. The pistol has to be reliable with a minimum of 500 rounds fired through it without cleaning and without malfunction to be "street worthy". I have used a Five Seven that belongs to a buddy of mine quit a bit. The ammo is really dirty and it penetrates car bodies terribly. Not to mention expensive. Shoot some water filled milk jugs. Talk about unimpressive. My .38 snub nose does much better. The Five Seven will not penetrate through to the third jug no matter what ammo you use. Stick with Glock, Sig or your HK, Brother. The HK is a better S/D or duty pistol IMO. Also, you say you don't want anything smaller than a .40 because you want the "muzzle velocity" to "knock" "Johnny Bad A$$". Well 9mm, 38 super, .357 mag, and .357 sig best the .40 in velocity all day long. Many .22 LR loads will best the .40 in velocity. I sure won't be carrying a .22 LR on my next "no knock warrant". Velocity is only about 1/3 of the equasion to stop a felon reliably. What point exactly are you trying to make about muzzle velocity? I believe you intended to site it's energy rather than it's "velocity". As common police calibers go, the .40 is very respectable in the energy department. I carry a 40 because that is the ammo I get for free not because of anything else. I can't beat the price though. Don't be fooled that it is "better" than the others. That my friend does not exist. Proclaiming one combat cartriage over another to be "best" is just a little too irrational for real life. Don't trust any of them to save your skin. We carry pistols because they are small and carryable. Bring a long arm when you head into trouble if ya have a choice. To think otherwise is not especially condusive to self preservation. Not Knocking your choice in rounds at all, just questioning your reasoning. I am also not intending to offend you either. Just don't fall for the gunshop, armchair allstar bullsh*t. Also, what has your Glock done to prevent you from "swearing by it"? 99.99% of the time Glock malfunctions are user induced IME. Stay safe, Brother.

[chiye tanka]

Currently I own a 23 and 35.
I've owned 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 27, 36.

[crashdive123]

Currently I own a 23 and 35.
I've owned 19, 21, 22, 23, 26, 27, 36.

Got rid of the junk ones huh?

[tacticalguy]

Compact 36

[Huntinfool]

I have two G19s and two G21s with plenty of extra mags!

One is none two is one!

~HF~

[cranky1]

17 9s beat 7 45s any day. did i say i like glocks? oh yea, i do.

[Rick]

And the smallest amount of ammunition on you beats the largest amount at home. Did I mention an Introduction?

http://www.wilderness-survival.net/f...ead.php?t=7813

[Pal334]

17 9s beat 7 45s any day. did i say i like glocks? oh yea, i do.

One hit beats 17 misses. To quote a famous shootist, No one has ever been killed by a loud noise

[Sourdough]

No one has ever been killed by a loud noise

Clearly you have never been with-in a 1/2 mile of my ex-wife at the wrong time of the month..........

[glockcop]

One hit beats 17 misses. To quote a famous shootist, No one has ever been killed by a loud noise

Pal, if he misses 17 times he don't need a gun. He needs grenades . Any way you look at it though 17 "chances" are way better than 7. If you walk into a crowded bar and proposition 17 women your chances of waking up in a warm bed with company are better than if you propositioned just 7 women. Think about it . No, this is definately not gentilemanly behavior but your chances are still greater with 17 no matter how ya look at it. And yes, a miss is still a miss no matter how big or small the bullet. I train for accuracy but the laws of probability still apply. I DO NOT advocate "spray and pray" but there is no such thing as having too much money or too much ammo. The proof is in the fact that modern man does not go into harms way with a muzzle loader (one shot) any longer. If Daniel Boone had his way I'm sure he would have traded in his front loader for an M14 right away. Take care, Brother.

[Pal334]

Pal, if he misses 17 times he don't need a gun. He needs grenades . Any way you look at it though 17 "chances" are way better than 7. If you walk into a crowded bar and proposition 17 women your chances of waking up in a warm bed with company are better than if you propositioned just 7 women. Think about it . No, this is definately not gentilemanly behavior but your chances are still greater with 17 no matter how ya look at it. And yes, a miss is still a miss no matter how big or small the bullet. I train for accuracy but the laws of probability still apply. I DO NOT advocate "spray and pray" but there is no such thing as having too much money or too much ammo. The proof is in the fact that modern man does not go into harms way with a muzzle loader (one shot) any longer. If Daniel Boone had his way I'm sure he would have traded in his front loader for an M14 right away. Take care, Brother.

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