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    Quote Originally Posted by Boker View Post
    I know nothing of this man, but could it be that his constituents are anti-gun and he is doing his job as their representative to express their views despite his personal feelings?
    his job is to what he feels is "the right thing".... if his constituents don't like it, they can vote for someone else. and he thinks being a hypocritical typical poltician is "the right thing"
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    Not quite true. There are three schools of thought on how politicians should vote.

    1. According to the true tenants of the constitution.
    2. In accordance with constituents wishes. They do, after all, represent the people.
    3. In accordance with their own conscience since they know the details of the legislation before them they know more than their constituents.

    I'm not advocating which is correct. Just listing them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boker View Post
    I know nothing of this man, but could it be that his constituents are anti-gun and he is doing his job as their representative to express their views despite his personal feelings?
    While that is certainly a possibility, why not then work to ban guns just in his district?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    Not quite true. There are three schools of thought on how politicians should vote.

    1. According to the true tenants of the constitution.
    2. In accordance with constituents wishes. They do, after all, represent the people.
    3. In accordance with their own conscience since they know the details of the legislation before them they know more than their constituents.

    I'm not advocating which is correct. Just listing them.
    Exactly Rick!..... I was trying to get across point that there is different theories as to their "job"... You worded it perfectly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    While that is certainly a possibility, why not then work to ban guns just in his district?


    Because, according to the link, he believes in his rights to bear arms.

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    My post was really made with my tongue planted firmly in my cheek. I am of the opinion that if an elected official that has sworn to protect the Constitution, bows to the desires of his/her constituents, his own personal desires, or the pressures from other sources - and that course that they choose violates the tenants that they were sworn to uphold - they should be removed from office.
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    Personally, I think we should run the anti-gun owners out of the country. We have the guns. What they gonna do? Throw rocks from just over the Canadian/Mexican border?



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    They work under a different set of "laws?" than us. They break their own rules!


    ...and then punish us for doin less.

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    "Gun control" is not the same thing as "anti-gun." I know that's a little complex for most wing-nuts (whichever side the wing is on) to get their head around, and the shouting heads don't want you to worry too much about things like details. Much easier to get the pitchfork crowd marching in lock-step if the issue is kept simple and dichotomous.

    Sure, the guy is a scumbag if he's spent his career pushing anti-gun legislation for the 'common folk' then pulls a Cheney on some intruders. Still, that doesn't make gun control bad. I'm for automobile control and regulation, but I'm not a hypocrite for having two cars. I have firearms of my own and am a solid backer of CCW permits, but don't think unregulated ownership of assault rifles is a good idea. Booga! booga! Socialism! Rar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostOutrider View Post
    but don't think unregulated ownership of assault rifles is a good idea.!
    How do you define assault rifle?
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    how about we define assault rifle as any individual rifle with which an actual assault has been committed, and ban those.

    i'd be fine with that.
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    I am always amazed at those who consider an assault rifle or weapon any diff. from any other firearm. They are both designed to kill. One just allows you to waste more ammo missing.

    I don't own assault weapons anymore. I also don't own handguns as I have children and it's just not worth any risks. No matter what.

    I'm down to muzzleloaders and shotguns. That being said, I don't give a rats arse what you own as long as you are a law abiding citizen. Well, I have my reservations with the guy next door who owns a basooka and a tank..........but hey, nice friend to have in a jam. LOL...only kidding about the next door neighbor Big Brother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    How do you define assault rifle?
    I'm sure you could google up plenty of definitions to agree with or not, crash, without me giving you one to play with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LostOutrider View Post
    I'm sure you could google up plenty of definitions to agree with or not, crash, without me giving you one to play with.
    You're the one that brought it up. You must have some idea what you meant and why. Just responding to your post, but if you think it's all about playing - have a nice day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by canid View Post
    how about we define assault rifle as any individual rifle with which an actual assault has been committed, and ban those.

    i'd be fine with that.
    Well said.
    I was thinking of banning all guns that have commited crimes, without a criminal, being in control of it.
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    "well i was going to use my gun to kill someone today but gosh they just passed this NEW law that says i cant do that with the gun i have and i cant get another one. guess ill just have to use a machete. THANKS NEW LAWS!"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pal334 View Post
    Long time Anti-Gun Advocate State Senator R.C. Soles, 74,
    shot one of two intruders at his home just outside Tabor
    City, N.C.. about 5 p.m. Sunday, the prosecutor for the
    politician's home county said.

    The victim, Kyle Blackburn, was taken to a South Carolina hospital,
    Wow. He shot the guy in NC, but they took the guy all the way into South Carolina for treatment???

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    Quote Originally Posted by sgtdraino View Post
    Wow. He shot the guy in NC, but they took the guy all the way into South Carolina for treatment???

    Only the best for perps

    Apparently it is right near Myrtle Beach SC, may explain the states
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    Quote Originally Posted by crashdive123 View Post
    You're the one that brought it up. You must have some idea what you meant and why. Just responding to your post, but if you think it's all about playing - have a nice day.
    Ahh, easy enough to mistake me stating my belief as a desire or challenge for you to change yours. If you think that random bits of text posted on an internet message forum in support or opposition to such an issue counts as any more significance than play - then I'll take your nice day and raise you a pleasant evening.

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