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    13 tubes super glue? wow!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by trax View Post
    Admit it, you wanna be just like Bear when ya grows up, lol
    Yep! I like a good motel with a great room service menu. ;>) Actually, though, my survival kits range in many different sizes depending on how I'm going to where I'm going. Hiking is always different than driving, and one can easily become stranded in a car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarge47 View Post
    Yep! I like a good motel with a great room service menu.
    And who wouldn't!? Even the famous Bear Grills is known to frequent them every once in a while! But only if the room service is good I'm told, and who could beat a resort in Hawaii after a helicopter ride?

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    I like to test my skills in that way twice a year, once in winter, once in summer/spring.

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    It is good to travel light... I'd like to but usually can't cause other people come and I have to take care of a tent, my bag, fire, food, and other smaller things. But, if I were gonna spend a few nights alone, I'd take some of that Ramen Noodle stuff from the local WalMart (only 14 cents for a meal!!! it is dried rice with flavoring and tastes good... just add water) a canteen or two of water, a bottle of purification tablets, and some matches/butane lighter/flint, and lastly a small blanket or towel. Of course, if it were scheduled to rain or something, I might bring a bit more like a tube tent. That sounds fun though!
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    Oh, i forgot the most important part... i carry a strong buck folding knife, a fixed blade about 1 foot long, 6 throwing knives (1 leg set, 1 arm set) and a multi tool knife.
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    I like to go alone sometimes for the same reason, having to bring community camping gear. And of course they aren't happy to cook over the fire so i have to bring a stove as well as the big tent, the cooler blah blah blah and anything else so they feel comfortable away from their own beds.

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    Default Hey Strider, buddy....

    Quote Originally Posted by Strider View Post
    Oh, i forgot the most important part... i carry a strong buck folding knife, a fixed blade about 1 foot long, 6 throwing knives (1 leg set, 1 arm set) and a multi tool knife.
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    I am a bit of a pack rat but try to make a choice in the light weight direction when choosing gear as long as it is functional and durable.
    Nesmuk said in his book that his kit for extended trips was 22lbs and that included a canoe and his rifle he was a woodsman thru and thru. Some of us myself included ltend to compinsate gear for skill and skill wins most times. Nesmuk just applied his skills and was resonably comfortable when he was out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fog_Harbor View Post
    I like to test my skills in that way twice a year, once in winter, once in summer/spring.
    ...and it's best to travel light, a shaving kit, a change of clothes, a Visa or MasterCard...
    some fella confronted me the other day and asked "What's your problem?" So I told him, "I don't have a problem I am a problem"

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    Question Fixed blade?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strider View Post
    Oh, i forgot the most important part... i carry a strong buck folding knife, a fixed blade about 1 foot long, 6 throwing knives (1 leg set, 1 arm set) and a multi tool knife.
    Yo Strider, what make & model fixed blade do you carry?
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcraft View Post
    i neva go minimalist lol i bring the entire pack whether im goin for a weekend or a month.

    heres the complete and updates list.


    i use a 60L Woods Backpack to haul all my stuff, complete inventory is

    A Outbound Banff Mummy sleeping bag Rated at -18 C (3LB's)

    a two person hvy duty dome tent

    speacial Edition Leatherman Wave (titanium tools)

    Leatherman micra (size of a school eraser) (awsome first aid tool)

    One of the earlier nameless leathermans

    a Engineer orienting compass

    a coleman multitool

    an original 33 fishing rod with professional grade 24LB monofilliment line

    a fishing set with several different baits and hooks

    4' x 10' foot netting

    a 3' x 3' foot minnow net to catch live bait

    a duracell crank high power light w/ orange signaller and radio

    1 copy of 'Camping & Wilderness survival' by Paul Tawrell , the best wilderness survival book i have ever read i highly recomend it

    Full Metal Welder's boots with extrme traction (THE BEST footware i have ever tried)

    1 set of colemen rain cloths (jacket and pants)

    a 4lb hatchet

    a machete

    500 wood strike anywhere matches

    60 feet of rope (3 braided 550x7's i think) (breaks at 1200 lbs)

    Zippo lighter with fluid refills

    1 emergency fanny pack contains
    - 2 thick rain poncho's
    - 6x6 ft heat wrap
    - 15 feet hevy duty cord
    - 2 whistles
    - 2 compasses
    - tweezers

    1 military issue folding shovel

    1 high quality mapping compass

    map pack with topographical maps of Manitoba , North Dakota , Minnesota, Saskatuan, and west Ontario

    1 emergency 20 hour candle

    1 first aid kit contains :
    - 10 foot water proof adhesive tape roll
    - various antibiotics including :
    - Benzalkonium Chloride
    - Methylparaben
    - Ammonia pads
    - isopropyl alcohol
    - Iodophor pvp ointment
    - iodine
    - titratable
    (most of these are only legally attainable - from a hospital or certified doctor)
    - heavy duty bandages
    - cold pack
    - syringe
    - anticeptics
    - painkillers
    - eye pad

    flagging tape

    waterproof match case with flint

    5 rolls of snare wire

    two 60 foot long rolls of strong 1/3 cm thick cord

    60 foot roll of strong twine

    6 footlong steel stakes

    5 feet of strong fabric elastic 1cm thick (used as shock cord)

    1 slingshot

    250 emergency slingshot bb's

    1 12x12 foot heavy duty tarp

    1 9x12 foot heavy duty tarp

    waterproof back pack bag

    1 buck folding knife

    1 gerber folding knife

    1 cold steel folding knife

    1 set of binoculars

    1 high velocity pellet rifle (more powerfull then a .22)

    500 hunting pellets for rifle

    3 heavy duty garbage bags

    3 large rols ofl heavy duty ducktape

    fingerless gloves

    high quality authentic leather australian style hat (wide brim great for when its raining)

    2 sets of glasses and 1 set of contact lenses

    1 set of heavy duty cloths

    1 set of light summer cloths

    Swimming trunks (wet suit if im planning on boating)

    13 tubes of superglue ( the rly rly rly powerfull kind )

    2 sharpening stones

    1 bottle of my emergency fire starter ( alot like napalm )

    1 large fishing net (i know im screwed if im caught using it)

    1 large bug net

    insect repellant

    one poison (stricknine, nicotine, arsenic,) dart in a metal box (incase i need to kill something big)

    web belts in case i need to store things closer at hand

    flaregun w/ 3 flares

    if im going in a boat i have another set that stays on the boat (2 heavy to carry)

    1lb of jerky

    enough pemmican to survive a month

    water purification system

    3 litres of fresh , (chemicals put in to make it more healthy) water

    wool socks

    tin cup

    i think thats everything lol
    From my hurried and limited research Marcraft did a couple of equipment lists. It's not a bad list but, I'd like to see a little refinement in the equipment as to what is recommended from the WSF members. What's the best in each. What's the best bang for the buck in each. I know there will not be total agreement as to the "best knife" and other items. So, what do you think? Is an agreed upon list doable? I don't know of any list that could answer so many questions for standards of acceptability in quality for a survival kit. I think this could benefit a lot of folks.

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    Still waiting, the kids are 7 now.

    A few more years and I'll be set.

    Wow, I posted on this post 3 years ago.

    Time flies.

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    We could break up the items into teams for product review. That could help defray the costs and speed-up the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FVR View Post
    Still waiting, the kids are 7 now.

    A few more years and I'll be set.

    Wow, I posted on this post 3 years ago.

    Time flies.
    Yea! Ya' never know what you'll pull out.

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    Well, think about it. We have a lot of experience at this site (guides, LEO's, military, craftsmen/women, etc.). Putting it together will be a monumental challenge.

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    Water repellent or waterproof.

    Easy to carry or attach to your body.

    Suitable to accept varisized components.

    Durable.
    In your survival kit, you should have--


    First aid items.

    Water purification tablets or drops.

    Fire starting equipment.

    Signaling items.

    Food procurement items. I say Remington 870, 12 ga. 18" smooth barrel w/ rifle sites. JMO .
    Shelter items.
    Some examples of these items are--


    Lighter, metal match, waterproof matches.

    Snare wire.

    Signaling mirror.

    Wrist compass.

    Fish and snare line.

    Fishhooks.

    Candle.

    Small hand lens.

    Oxytetracycline tablets (diarrhea or infection).

    Water purification tablets.

    Solar blanket.

    Surgical blades.

    Butterfly sutures.

    Condoms for water storage.

    Chap Stick.

    Needle and thread.

    Knife. Mora, KABAR, Swiss Army or an equivalent
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    [QUOTE=rebel;160304]Water repellent or waterproof.

    Easy to carry or attach to your body.

    Suitable to accept varisized components.

    Durable.





    I'd have to go w/ Rick on this and say the Alice pack.

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    I think there are a lot of variables here. It will depend on the reason for the pack. Hauling game out, for example, is a lot different than hiking. It will depend on the reason you are in the woods and it will depend on your skill and experience. Some are quite content to walk the woods with a hand full of items while some of us drag the bus behind us.

    I don't think gear is a one size fits all subject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I think there are a lot of variables here. It will depend on the reason for the pack. Hauling game out, for example, is a lot different than hiking. It will depend on the reason you are in the woods and it will depend on your skill and experience. Some are quite content to walk the woods with a hand full of items while some of us drag the bus behind us.

    I don't think gear is a one size fits all subject.
    I agree with you on that. This "list" is not a list of the things you have to take. This list is about the products our membership have agreed upon to work for the intended task. A poll could be taken for a particular item and the top three recommendations could be posted to that item. The "list" would be a reference list for anyone wanting to know from experience what works. For example, Hawks and hatchets, I'd go with the Estwing hatchet.
    Due to the differences this may not be doable.

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